LF:Raid Tank <fighter/barbarian>

[FrozenNova]

Less of this.
Paladins may not have as much outright dps as fighters or barbarians (though a good KoTC is definitely up there with most), but every paladin is capable of using divine righteousness to generate incomprehensible amounts of threat.
Paladins might be down slightly in hitpoints compared to a fighter who spent feats on extra toughness, and moreso to a barbarian, but the paladin's saves makes it relatively easy to avoid half of all incoming spell damage while the lay on hands means a momentary lax in healing doesn't transform them into the latest soul stone.
Paladins can also reach reasonable levels of intimidate without any particular investment from the build, which goes a long way in terms of getting the boss sorted quickly.
Paladins make fine raid tanks.
As do specific monks and rangers, though it's likely to take them more effort to overcome the hp dip.
Less tank discrimination please.

[Shade]

Can != are.

Khyber has a lot less players who built strong tank paladins then those who build strong tank fighters or barbs.

Just how it is.

Not descrimination. Fact of the server. People tend to look for whats available.

Sure theres some great tank paladins on Khyber, just not as many as ftr/barb.

[Attropos]

My tanks are people I know and trust. I don't care if its a Tukaw Build sorc, if I trust their tanking abilities, I let them tank.

A well built hate tank paladin should be able strip aggro away from anything.

EDIT: Axer is right in this case; there are a LOT more well built fighters and barbs than paladins. I can think of a few paladins I would trust tanking off the top of my head. I can think of many many more fighters and barbarians.

[NXPlasmid]

Why all the hate people, where is the love build? T

[Blank_Zero]

My tanks are people I know and trust. I don't care if its a Tukaw Build sorc, if I trust their tanking abilities, I let them tank.

Invite Killingspree to Tank Horoth and Sullo for ya sometime....quite a sight I must say.

[theboatman]

In before "bards cant heal"

[laeris]

To me a good tank is someone you can rely on to hold agro while the rest of the party goes ape****..

Paladin's are amazing at this--providing they can survive a good fistin' from Horoth and co.

[noinfo]

Can != are.

Khyber has a lot less players who built strong tank paladins then those who build strong tank fighters or barbs.

Just how it is.

Not descrimination. Fact of the server. People tend to look for whats available.

Sure theres some great tank paladins on Khyber, just not as many as ftr/barb.

Doesn't make it right though, just misinformed. The number of LFM's that look for a particular type of tank ie WF or Barb tank etc are usually just because the party leader does have not got a clue about tanking in general and go for what they perceive as a safe option. HP are the last line of defense and having huge amounts is always good as it often means that healers willing to burn resources and sp can keep them up. There are often (not always) better alternatives resource wise, the problem is as I see it, with a Barb you always know what you are getting and unless the person building it has truely gimped it, the basics are always going to be max strength and next con, meaning that they will always going to be able to soak the damage where as with a pally getting the stats right on a MAD build is very very hard to do and you may end up with someone who maxed out charisma on a Drow thinking that they can tank.

[Tuney]

Killingspree can't tank a Kobold in waterworks on Casual! Him tanking in a raid , everyone else must have died for that to happen!

[Blank_Zero]

Killingspree can't tank a Kobold in waterworks on Casual! Him tanking in a raid , everyone else must have died for that to happen!

Heh, no just me. Lag Spiked and I went from 770+HP to -16 real fast. Aggro transferred to Spree, who was already tanking Sullo at the time.

He held both while we rebuffed and took care of trash for a bit. Then I pulled Horoth back over and we completed.

[Wrendd]

Personally, I love it when I join a raid on Tickdoff, get tapped to tank... and then when i die (quickly) I ask them if they really wanted me and my 132 HP to tank the boss. Good Times.

[flynnjsw]

Paladdium did not have the HP to handle Horoth, but I never had an issue tanking Suluu. of course he is a WF FvS now and at level 3 I am tanking nothing...lol.

[JakLee7]

I personally have a fine tanking paly & understand the frustration in trying to explain to someone that I can pull aggro from a barb fully frenzy'd with hardly any effort and have decent DPS to boot

however, did anyone else notice the 0% fort on that screenie

[Faent]

Less of this.

In most PUGs (and Horoth excepted), the last thing you want is a a high HP toon doing the tanking over the high AC toon. Obviously it's a different story if you know your healers can handle the SP sponge.

[Goldeneye]

Yes, Paladins make great tanks. High evil outsider damage + LoH for "Oh-****" situations is great.

However, when running with less experienced healers, I prefer barbarians due to that "mistake cushion" that comes from a few hundred more hp.

[Faent]

Yes, Paladins make great tanks. High evil outsider damage + LoH for "Oh-****" situations is great. However, when running with less experienced healers, I prefer barbarians due to that "mistake cushion" that comes from a few hundred more hp.

If you have a very high AC toon in the group, and are running with inexperienced healers, you don't want the barbarian tanking (Horoth excepted). Your inexperienced healers will burn through tons of SP keeping that barbarian up. And they have to keep the group up too. Bad medicine.

[sirgog]

To me a good tank is someone you can rely on to hold agro while the rest of the party goes ape****..

Paladin's are amazing at this--providing they can survive a good fistin' from Horoth and co.

The ooze is tanking there...