Req: Help on a Build Please im confused

[CrazyDoc]

Hello All, I have a question on a build and yes i have used planner but it still confusing a bit heres what im curious on before i build a toon...
I want to build a toon that can
1- hide, move silently,unlock door, chests, disable traps, search for hidden doors
2- survivability i solo alot and tend to quest alone
3-can self heal
4-can summon few pets to help if overwhelmed
5-dwarven waraxes and kopeshs, longbows
6 is mostly melee/ranged who can heal his own ass in emergencies

i wasnt sure to go fighter/rogue/divine soul or if i would gimp myself too much
since going divine soul would give me access to pets and healing but was wondering how obscure mist would be to hide in when lobbing arrows at mobs

[unbongwah]

A rogue-splashed ranger build like mine will do most of what you want. Ranger summons suck, but summoning in general sucks in DDO. Or a rogue-splashed Warforged wizard, although I wouldn't recommend trying to be melee- or ranged-focused if you're still new to DDO.

[CrazyDoc]

im not new to ddo been playing a very very long time just cant afford to pay anymore so on the free 2 play servers.
As for summoning i was thinking of it since i Do Solo alot and play alot (sometimes up to 9 hrs a day) I am alone so if im in a dungeon on a quest i can summon some type of pet to help since i cant afford to keep buying hirelings for that extra help...
With a splash of Fighter i liked cause it gave me some extra feats , hps, and Bow usage for ranged so wasnt sure if i really needed ranger or not im a dwarf but still confused with planning. Played regular d&d for Over a decade so not new and played ddo since launch...
SO fighter/rogue would still give me everything i want right and a ranger just gives me the abilities for a few extra feats and favored enemies? but i still need a way to self heal so was thinking something like Fighter/rogue/divine soul?

[Sequell]

im not new to ddo been playing a very very long time just cant afford to pay anymore so on the free 2 play servers.
As for summoning i was thinking of it since i Do Solo alot and play alot (sometimes up to 9 hrs a day) I am alone so if im in a dungeon on a quest i can summon some type of pet to help since i cant afford to keep buying hirelings for that extra help...
With a splash of Fighter i liked cause it gave me some extra feats , hps, and Bow usage for ranged so wasnt sure if i really needed ranger or not im a dwarf but still confused with planning. Played regular d&d for Over a decade so not new and played ddo since launch...
SO fighter/rogue would still give me everything i want right and a ranger just gives me the abilities for a few extra feats and favored enemies? but i still need a way to self heal so was thinking something like Fighter/rogue/divine soul?

You have been playing since launch and you ask questions like these? Playing since launch and don't have enough plat for hirelings? Playing since launch...sounds a little fishy to me.

Maybe you been playing since it went free-to-play?

[CrazyDoc]

yes i have been playing since launch - On and Off until i couldnt pay so went f2play, again on and off server i was on originally i didnt realize was test server lamannia. Due to RL i had left again now ive returned and trying these classes again to stay on f2p for Now....until i can afford to pay again...and i ask for help on these builds cause i used to just dual class fighter/rogue

[countesscrow]

Hello All, I have a question on a build and yes i have used planner but it still confusing a bit heres what im curious on before i build a toon...
I want to build a toon that can
1- hide, move silently,unlock door, chests, disable traps, search for hidden doors
2- survivability i solo alot and tend to quest alone
3-can self heal
4-can summon few pets to help if overwhelmed
5-dwarven waraxes and kopeshs, longbows
6 is mostly melee/ranged who can heal his own ass in emergencies

i wasnt sure to go fighter/rogue/divine soul or if i would gimp myself too much
since going divine soul would give me access to pets and healing but was wondering how obscure mist would be to hide in when lobbing arrows at mobs

Working up something for just you now. Any other information you can give to describe this build?

[eonfreon]

im not new to ddo been playing a very very long time just cant afford to pay anymore so on the free 2 play servers.
As for summoning i was thinking of it since i Do Solo alot and play alot (sometimes up to 9 hrs a day) I am alone so if im in a dungeon on a quest i can summon some type of pet to help since i cant afford to keep buying hirelings for that extra help...
With a splash of Fighter i liked cause it gave me some extra feats , hps, and Bow usage for ranged so wasnt sure if i really needed ranger or not im a dwarf but still confused with planning. Played regular d&d for Over a decade so not new and played ddo since launch...
SO fighter/rogue would still give me everything i want right and a ranger just gives me the abilities for a few extra feats and favored enemies? but i still need a way to self heal so was thinking something like Fighter/rogue/divine soul?

Rangers can self-heal. They can use wands of cure light, moderate , and serious wounds. They start to get their spells at level 4. You might want to try out the Exploiter Ranger, he can disable traps and open locks. If you don't have access to Monks a level of Fighter can be substituted in the Exploiter; Ranger 18/Ftr 1/ Rogue 1.

Here's a link to the Exploiter. You will have to tweak it a little if you only have 28 build points.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168687

[der_kluge]

The dwarven waraxe thing is a bit of an anomaly. I'd consider dropping that. I'd also not design a build around summoning monsters. Also not to your advantage. Summons aren't useful until end game, and even then their effectiveness is arguable.

Rogues don't mesh well with healers, since they lack complementary ability scores. This type of build works best if you're making a 32 pt. build character, or better. A base character is going to be spread kind of thin here.

I assume you don't have 32 pt. build, so I built this as a base 28 pt. build option.

Take a 2nd level of rogue, and then go with Favored Soul from there on out. Should be a fairly capable solo'er.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
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Level 1 Lawful Good Elf Male
(1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 27
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 0
Fortitude: 1
Reflex: 4
Will: 1

                  Starting          
Abilities        Base Stats         
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          
Strength             12             
Dexterity            15             
Constitution         12             
Intelligence         12             
Wisdom               12             
Charisma             13             

                  Starting          
                 Base Skills        
Skills           (Level 1)          
Balance               2             
Bluff                 5             
Concentration         1             
Diplomacy             1             
Disable Device        5             
Haggle                1             
Heal                  1             
Hide                  6             
Intimidate            1             
Jump                  5             
Listen                1             
Move Silently         6             
Open Lock             6             
Perform               n/a           
Repair                1             
Search                5             
Spot                  5             
Swim                  4             
Tumble                3             
Use Magic Device      n/a           

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

[Der_Incubo]

Id recommend starting with 2 levels of rog (evasion and max out umd/spot/disable/unlock/jump/balance/put some in concentration) then several levels of bard (at least 12), then toss in some fighter or barbarian levels for more hp/beatdown skills.

Keep putin points into umd so ya can save yer sp for displace, haste, rage while wonderin why when you join a team they dont hand all the loot over to you because your the one doing all the killing/healing/buffing.

[countesscrow]

Hello All, I have a question on a build and yes i have used planner but it still confusing a bit heres what im curious on before i build a toon...
I want to build a toon that can
1- hide, move silently,unlock door, chests, disable traps, search for hidden doors
2- survivability i solo alot and tend to quest alone
3-can self heal
4-can summon few pets to help if overwhelmed
5-dwarven waraxes and kopeshs, longbows
6 is mostly melee/ranged who can heal his own ass in emergencies

i wasnt sure to go fighter/rogue/divine soul or if i would gimp myself too much
since going divine soul would give me access to pets and healing but was wondering how obscure mist would be to hide in when lobbing arrows at mobs

Just wasn't enough points left for hide and sneak. Everything else you want is here!

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.0
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Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(6 Fighter \ 4 Rogue \ 10 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 326
Spell Points: 522 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 13

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 22                   24
Dexterity            15                 17                   18
Constitution         14                 16                   18
Intelligence         14                 16                   16
Wisdom               14                 16                   16
Charisma              6                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               6                 20                   24
Bluff                -2                 -1                    0
Concentration         2                  5                    6
Diplomacy            -2                 -1                    0
Disable Device        6                 26                   28
Haggle               -2                 -1                   -1
Heal                  2                  3                    3
Hide                  6                  8                    8
Intimidate           -2                 -1                    0
Jump                  6                 11                   11
Listen                2                  3                    3
Move Silently         6                  8                    8
Open Lock             6                 27                   29
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                  3                    3
Search                6                 26                   29
Spot                  6                  7                    7
Swim                  2                  7                    7
Tumble                6                  8                    8
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+4)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Follower of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+4)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Panacea
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery III


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+6)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

[CrazyDoc]

Wow thankx so much guys, sorry took so long to respond with storms here on East Coast ive lost cable alot.
I love the ideas, meant to add something tho , reason i wanted summon pets/monsters was to aid if i cant beat down more than 3 mobs at once and can selfheal my own ass while meleeing the mobs and using some ranged bows for those mobs out of melee reach. I will utilize hide and obscure mist but move silently not really so much but will definitely be opening locks, searching for secret doors, and finding disabling traps, i really stink at being a group healer and try to stay away from it but high hps would help alot also not sure of class dwarfs i like but humans get second feat and halflings get the healing dragonmarks so im lost on that and then i looked at Fvs Because one builder i wouldnt really be swapping spells that much mostly only Cure wounds healing lines, Summons and obscure mist spells only and taking 1-2 levels of fighter to give me hps and longbow feats as well so i have the ranged so was thinking a rogue/fvs/fighter (1) might work but wasnt sure, also since i wont be moving Silently that much someone who can wear heavy armor for the ac protection might help also with the skills i mostly only use hide, move silently, balance, open locks, umd, search and spot and all rest i use passive only none triggered