UMD Hate from DEV/WAI?

[DaSawks]

I have noticed that every skill in DDO has some sort of Action Point Enhancement except for UMD. Reciently DDO went so far as to low the AP costs for skills to 1 AP per. I want to spend Action points to increase my UMD. Is that too much to ask? 3 little points is all I ask for.

[FoxCourier]

I think there's a small amount of boosts to UMD (items, etc.) by design to keep people from leveraging the benefits of doing so. Scrolls, wands, and so on. Things that people already build for in the pursuit of self-sufficiency.

If you want more UMD, get Skill Focus. If that's not enough, well... Start hunting gear.

[flynnjsw]

It's because UMD is THE single most useful skill in the game. If you want to boost your UMD, either splash classes that have it as a class skill or get gear that will boost it.

[Cairo]

I would HATE HATEHATEHATEHATE having a UMD enhancement.

Many builds are already tight on APs as it is (PM Necro/Enchant dual spec, AM IV Enchant/Conj SLA Hypno/Web/Arcane Bolt/Blast, many rogues, every monk, cant speak for fighters or bard/barb)

If there were UMD enhancements, they'd be all but mandatory for a character who wants to use scrolls. if there were 4 tiers, UMD +1/2/3/4 for AP 1/2/3/4, that'd be 10 APs I dont have available for Ability scores, Combat DC boosts, HE Dilly Enhancements, etc.

[Vellrad]

I would HATE HATEHATEHATEHATE having a UMD enhancement.

Many builds are already tight on APs as it is (PM Necro/Enchant dual spec, AM IV Enchant/Conj SLA Hypno/Web/Arcane Bolt/Blast, many rogues, every monk, cant speak for fighters or bard/barb)

If there were UMD enhancements, they'd be all but mandatory for a character who wants to use scrolls. if there were 4 tiers, UMD +1/2/3/4 for AP 1/2/3/4, that'd be 10 APs I dont have available for Ability scores, Combat DC boosts, HE Dilly Enhancements, etc.

So if you can't squeeze something into you build, it can't exist at all?

[Nospheratus]

If it was like all other skills, imagine an item with +15 to UMD...

No, in DDO, UMD is not like other skills!

[k1ngp1n]

Also, there is UMD enchancement line, like with all skill, and it requires a class wich got UMD as class skill.

No.

I have noticed that every skill in DDO has some sort of Action Point Enhancement except for UMD. Reciently DDO went so far as to low the AP costs for skills to 1 AP per. I want to spend Action points to increase my UMD. Is that too much to ask? 3 little points is all I ask for.

UMD checks are lower than other skill requirements in this game. Therefore, the skill maximum itself needs to be lowered. Since UMD is so powerful, they intentionally made it so that it requires significant character investment to hit usable scores. This is a Good Thing (tm).

[muffinlad]

So if you can't squeeze something into you build, it can't exist at all?

Ha! Exactly.

muffinloling

[DaSawks]

It's because UMD is THE single most useful skill in the game. If you want to boost your UMD, either splash classes that have it as a class skill or get gear that will boost it.

UMD is king. A close second would be concentration. Every Blue Bar and monk needs Concentration. Only Bards and Rogues (me) get UMD as a class skill. You would think other classes have no skill at Using Magical Devices?

[Octopusfluff]

I'm a bit puzzled. I see folks mention a "bunny hat" but the only one I know of provides a jump bonus?

[Razcar]

I'm a bit puzzled. I see folks mention a "bunny hat" but the only one I know of provides a jump bonus?

It has an additional hidden effect.

[redoubt]

Don't forget you can use skill boost from human, rogues and rangers to boost UMD as well. Oh.. and skill focus UMD. That's 8 more than the 41 already mentioned... so, ah... 49. 51 is you upgrade to the 7 fingered gloves. (I happen to like the titan raid, so maybe I'm just wierd.)

I know my little trap monkey could no fail greater teleport scrolls... so I'm not yet understanding the problem.

Also, why do you need to umd level 9 scrolls? True res? Cast a regular raise dead scroll (very easy by comparison) and then drop a heal scroll or two on them. Sure you have to cast two or three scrolls instead, but if you're trying to do this in combat and the difference in surviving and wiping is a true res scroll, you've prolly already wiped. There are also other, faster, no fail ways to res people. (i.e. res ring or GS.)

Other than healing, you certainly have time to swap gear and max your umd before casting. (Personally, I'd hope you have time to do it for healing as well...)

Would I like some more options for UMD? Sure I've got characters that I'd like to have better UMD on. But! I've be around this fight before and have come around to realize that +15 UMD items and more enhancements would likely do more harm than good.

Sorry.

[asphodeli]

I'm a bit puzzled. I see folks mention a "bunny hat" but the only one I know of provides a jump bonus?

That same hat gives a hidden effect which gives +3 to your UMD when you hold a wand or scroll in your hand when you equip the hat.

[Templarion]

It's because UMD is THE single most useful skill in the game. If you want to boost your UMD, either splash classes that have it as a class skill or get gear that will boost it.

Yep. Double that.

[Ganolyn]

...3 little points is all I ask for...

Bunny Hat?

[Yaga_Nub]

when the game first came out you could use skill boosts to get up to +10 to UMD. I'm glad they changed the max to 5. UMD is much to useful for everyone to have 30 or higher with little effort.

[Razcar]

I can't even fathom your logic here. Casters (both Arcane AND Divine) are by far the most powerful classes. One might argue that they hate Rangers because of the issues with Ranged Combat, or that they hate Monks because they changed ToD, but casters? Sorry but no.

Nah, the worst hit for Rangers was their knee-jerk nerfing of Tempest into oblivion.

And Eladrin loves his monks, there's no other class that gets close to the same kind of dev attention, both in game updates and in forum posts - regardless of GS handwraps or tod. Would be nice if they had a boss telling them to spend equal time on all the classes, but alas, no.

Making GS handwraps work in DDO must be of the magnitude of programming the original Apollo space mission software or they would have done it years ago, considering all the attention monks get in every update.