yet another monk splash build..

[helldie]

this is a fun build and i want to try the WSS longsword user.

so what is the best dps and survivability with this too build? feedback?

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(12 Fighter \ 7 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 469
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 14
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            16                    17
Constitution         15                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     3
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         2                     6
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  3                     9
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 14 (Fighter)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Fighter)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

Lvl 1 rog for UMD.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Male
(2 Fighter \ 16 Paladin \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 345
Spell Points: 215 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 17
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             16                    18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     4
Bluff                 3                     4
Concentration         1                     2
Diplomacy             3                     4
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            3                     4
Jump                  3                     5
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                 -1                     1
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II

[Steveohio]

While I wouldn't recommend longswords to anyone due to horrible overall dps(currently have a WSS clonk with epic timeblade that respecced to fists)

The build that does it best, the kung fu cowboy by tobril is worth taking a look at.
Much improved version of your paladin build.

Absolutely don't build a WSS toon without taking at least 3 levels of monk for fists of light and healing Ki.

The only reason you should ever even consider WSS is for the light monk finishers, and the healing amp.

[helldie]

yea but Tobrils build is more on defense and healing amp.

it needs a 34pts character i can only and too many tomes used.

[Tobril]

You can make my build with less points, you'll just have to sacrifice some of the skills stuff.


WSS is all about having a slightly better weapon for fists of light action for cheap solo work. Keep that in mind when you construct something around this feat.

[helldie]

i can only access 28pt build for now. hmm.

i need a reworked..

looks like my build will be drow pal 15/mnk 3/2 ftr

is that ok tobril?

im ****ed with monk short attack range using fist

[Sani_Medicor]

Here's one I posted a while back...
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289812

Lawful Good Elf
(15 Paladin / 3 Monk / 2 Fighter)

Stats
Str 16 +5 Level Ups
Dex 16
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 8
Cha 16

Progression
1 Monk
2-3 Fighter
4-9 Paladin
10-11 Monk
12-20 Paladin

Feats
1 Toughness
1 Two Weapon Fighting
2 Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
3 Weapon Focus: Slashing
3 Whirling Steel Strike
6 Force of Personality
9 Improved Critical: Slashing
10 Power Attack
11 Path of Harmonious Balance
12 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
15 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
18 Extend Spell

Skills
Balance and Concentration

Enhancements
Elven Dexterity II
Elven Toughness II
Elven Melee Attack II
Elven Melee Damage II
Paladin Devotion II
Paladin Charisma II
Paladin Toughness IV
Paladin Divine Might III
Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Paladin Courage of Good II
Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Paladin Resistance of Good II
Paladin Energy of Templar II
Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Paladin Unyielding Sovereignty
Paladin Follower of the Sovereign Host
Fighter Strength I
Fighter Haste Boost I
Monk Improved Recovery I
Monk Way of the Patient Tortoise I

*I'm considering swapping out Force of Personality for something else.

[Tobril]

i can only access 28pt build for now. hmm.

i need a reworked..

looks like my build will be drow pal 15/mnk 3/2 ftr

is that ok tobril?

im ****ed with monk short attack range using fist

Sounds fine.

Pick up Oversize TFW and extend with those fighter levels. (rework feat order to maintain legal selections, i.e. extend is not a fighter bonus feat)

I take quicken so as to be able to intimidate a room/boss and keep myself alive. You won't have the toys at first to make this happen so a different feat may or may not be more useful to you.

[helldie]

Here's one I posted a while back...
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289812

Lawful Good Elf
(15 Paladin / 3 Monk / 2 Fighter)

Stats
Str 16 +5 Level Ups
Dex 16
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 8
Cha 16

Progression
1 Monk
2-3 Fighter
4-9 Paladin
10-11 Monk
12-20 Paladin

Feats
1 Toughness
1 Two Weapon Fighting
2 Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
3 Weapon Focus: Slashing
3 Whirling Steel Strike
6 Force of Personality
9 Improved Critical: Slashing
10 Power Attack
11 Path of Harmonious Balance
12 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
15 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
18 Extend Spell

Skills
Balance and Concentration

Enhancements
Elven Dexterity II
Elven Toughness II
Elven Melee Attack II
Elven Melee Damage II
Paladin Devotion II
Paladin Charisma II
Paladin Toughness IV
Paladin Divine Might III
Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Paladin Courage of Good II
Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Paladin Resistance of Good II
Paladin Energy of Templar II
Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Paladin Unyielding Sovereignty
Paladin Follower of the Sovereign Host
Fighter Strength I
Fighter Haste Boost I
Monk Improved Recovery I
Monk Way of the Patient Tortoise I

*I'm considering swapping out Force of Personality for something else.

nice build dude

it needs 32pt stats to fit on elf race.. i dont have access to that yet..
your FoP i like to replace with another toughness since we only have racial toughness 2 enhancement..

[helldie]

Sounds fine.

Pick up Oversize TFW and extend with those fighter levels. (rework feat order to maintain legal selections, i.e. extend is not a fighter bonus feat)

I take quicken so as to be able to intimidate a room/boss and keep myself alive. You won't have the toys at first to make this happen so a different feat may or may not be more useful to you.

yeah i know that..

i will take extend than quicken.

tnx for he rep. Sir Tobril

[elg582]

At this point, go ahead and go 6 monk for ninja, best defensiv eability in the game.

Check out the Malcontent 8 fighter/6 monk/6 ranger; I leveled to 20 planning to TR, but it's just too good to do that right now

[Dartwick]

I have this guy at 19 now

14f/6m long sword user.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=293049

My advice would be take elf.
Im also not sure taking rogue is actually helpful. The loss in BAB and hitpoints is probably more significant that what you will gain.

[helldie]

At this point, go ahead and go 6 monk for ninja, best defensiv eability in the game.

Check out the Malcontent 8 fighter/6 monk/6 ranger; I leveled to 20 planning to TR, but it's just too good to do that right now

anusual build eh.

but i think best build with that is 12ftr/6rng/2mnk
for power surge/rams/sun stance...

i like to pick one of this build either 12ftr/7mnk/1rog or 15pal/3mnk/2ftr

i know the 1st build is much of a dps toon and the second is more on survivability..

still. . . need to toss a coin.

[helldie]

I have this guy at 19 now

14f/6m long sword user.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=293049

My advice would be take elf.
Im also not sure taking rogue is actually helpful. The loss in BAB and hitpoints is probably more significant that what you will gain.

yeah. but it will be good to take level 1 rouge and go to level 7mnk for 12ftr/7mnk/1rog just like my 1st toon

[Dartwick]

The 12/7/1 is probably going to be easier to solo with.

the 14/6 is probably going to be better in a raid group.