Dear Pew Pews'

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Ah, if only everyone would wait for you to do your thing. . .

I see several classes of chars complain that people will not wait for them to do their thing.

Bards fascinating, Rogue Assassinations....others too.

Although I also think a good party will try to adapt to each other, the best thing an individual can do is to use tactics that does not require anyone else to do anything special.

Yes it sorta makes sense to shoot something, and wait for it to come to you...so you can keep shooting it as it does so, and maybe even kill it before it gets to you. And it makes sense that the melee guys should just wait with you, cause if they charge up there, they're just gonne see the monsters run right past them to the archer anyway.

But PUG life ain't like that.
The good archer, should already know that they won't wait. That they will charge right up there......every time. Even after seeing you range pull things to you over and over again.

So instead of expecting five other people to get smart, it's usually just easier and friendlier to not shoot first. Just charge up there with them....then when you see the mobes react....then shoot.

It might be smarter the ranged way, but people don't see it that way.

The Brb next you has thie char that is really fast, and really good at jumoing into a pack and killing everything real fast. He probably is playing a Brb cause that is how he likes to play too. He does not want to wait for you to pull thing to him. He wants to charge!

The Sor next you. He wants to charge too. In fact, he wants to run through the next three rooms and cast one! firewall. and kill everything.
He knows he can. to him that is the best way to play.

The CCing Wizard, actually wants to follow the Brb and cast one mass hold spell and watch the carnage.

The cleric, kinda likes your ranged way....but he's not used to it. And may not even know that he likes the ranged way yet.

Again, maybe I've just been beated into submission, by years of ranged hate. But it's just easier for one guy to adapt to five.

But what I was saying earlier..... a smart barbarian, with a rgr who insists on range pulling everything....should learn to adapt.
Not because it's right or anythin glike that....but because "they" are out there. Those annoying kiters. They exist. They will not adapt to the other five people.
So...the good melee guys will find a way to cope. They wil expect the ranged pull, and just wait. And Intimidate. Or find other ways to adapt.
(of course the ones who are really annoyed may adapt in a way that the ranged guy is reeeaallly gonna hate. )

[Chris79]

I have realised that kiting is not simply the purview of Pew Pews.

I've been running with a TRed Wizzy for the last 7 levels of TRx2 ( you know who you are ) and I'm wondering if I need to refer him to this thread for kiting advice....and if I complain, he greases me!

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I have realised that kiting is not simply the purview of Pew Pews.

I've been running with a TRed Wizzy for the last 7 levels of TRx2 ( you know who you are ) and I'm wondering if I need to refer him to this thread for kiting advice....and if I complain, he greases me!

Actually....maybe you should Grease him! (and all kiters)

(that was a joke btw)

[NaturalHazard]

Actually....maybe you should Grease him! (and all kiters)

(that was a joke btw)

If they are ranger kiters they often have access to fom and nearly always have it up, I laugh when someone greases and everyone is cursing and falling over hehe.

[Rog]

Your "stereotypical" melee wont have to deal with anything a good archer shoots, as it will be dead long before the melee character has to take a swipe at it.

Its the 42 dex 16 str archers who never put the bow down that you have to worry about, heh.

li know 1 bowbarian thats cranks out some mean damage

[Orratti]

Repeater rogues take notice of this thread.
You are **** Pew Pews as well.

A good repeater rogue works differently than a ranger.

A good repeater rogue never shoots first but waits until the melee arrive on the scene and have aggro.

A good repeater rogue is always 2 or 3 steps behind the melee. (30' backstab range)

A good repeater rogue never puts down his repeater. That would drop his dps! Although I have had to do so from time to time mostly to shieldblock and allow the melee to regain aggro. Sometime to beat on portals.

I'm sure there's more but I just got a group. Later!

[Chris79]

I ran with a ranger in PoP today that kept pew pewing and kiting the mobs, and then when finally was toe to toe with them, pulled out a shield and mace....

I'm sorry, but you guys get TWF for free, seems such a waste when you see that