Quote Originally Posted by Elyanna View Post
And others walk the line of both. Have enough self respect to know what is wrong and should never be done and what is not how they would do it but is a workable solution so it's fine to do it?

Again I'll say it...

It's not an us issue, It might be a you issue.

This speed run system works and only harms people if the raid fails or someone doesn't understand the rules for it. Do you really see that many fail shrouds by those who run this system?
I know lots of people who run successful groups and are still dbags. I didnt know the issue was completion, I thought the issue was people being d****