Please implement the AGING system!

[Khanyth]

I could see Turbine doing this.

1st: they implement this concept of X hours played = X months aged
2nd: they make it so TRing resets your age
3rd: they 3X the TP it costs to TR
4th: profit!

While I understand the logic of the concept, it just wouldn't work.

/notsigned

[Razcar]

Seriously have you ever played a campaign where charachters aged ?

I suppose you've never played Pendragon then. An absolutely brilliant RPG where you ended up playing a dynasty instead of just one character.

[KillEveryone]

No.

With how long it takes to get gear, your character would be dead before they get most of what they want.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

That is why there is an age limit.... when reaching that, your character becomes unusable unless you reincarnate... (that's the beauty of role-playing your character gets to die of old age)

Ohhh.. edit... still usable.. but as a ghost.. you can wander stormreach talk to players and npc's and travel from town to town.. but cannot run quest...

That's just getting to be a worse and worse idea as you go

[knightgf]

So let me see if I can sum up why and why not aging should be implemented in this game:

Advantages of Aging

• More roleplaying for your characters!
• Ability to auto-adjust appearance based on age.
• As you get older, your INT, WIS and CHA attributes increase slightly.
• Pick whatever age you desire to be at character creation and TR!
• Druids do not suffer the negative effects of aging on one's body.

Disadvantages of Aging

• As you get older, your STR, DEX and CON decrease by up to a total of -6 on stats. However, stats cannot go below one.
• A time frame as to how your character ages in DDO vs. gameplay in real-life has not been agreed upon yet. Some are too fast, others are slow.
• People worry that if you TR, you lose your age and have to reset all over again. Or worse, people worry once you reach your maximum age, your character becomes totally unusable. I suppose this can be fixed by using a LR to reset your age to a younger stat once you reach or are close to reaching your age limit...

I'm surprised nobody ever mentioned about how 'maximum' age is determined. That would be a very interesting topic to see unfold...

But the main question is, "Can aging be successfully implemented in this game?" It's a bit rough, but I think it can be. Sure, you may have warriors or other classes gimping themselves by being old or young, but gimps will always exist no matter what. Besides, do you really want to be a old wizard? Taking a -6 penalty to STR, CON and DEX vs. gaining 3 points in INT, CHA and WIS is definitely something worth debating; most probably wouldn't take the gamble and start young. It would be a attractive option for druids with their timeless body feat...

I can see it now...gimp drow elf wizard thats in the venerable age category and put all his points in everything but CON...he's finished if he suffers one point of con damage or 2 points in DEX or STR.

[Talias006]

OK, I'll bite.

We'll go with this, so the most any of my toons will age is 5 months

I think they meant that each month of playing time equated your character aged one year. That would make some of my characters I don't play ancient indeed. And would make the ones I do play still too old to quest without a walker.

Absolutely and unequivocally /not signed.

The sig is different, but it just feels like something h4x would suggest. Anyone else fear the same?

[Memnir]

feels like something h4x would suggest. Anyone else fear the same?

It's done more then cross my mind.

[FlyingTurtle]

Yeah, and also, let's go back to 2nd Ed mechanics where each cast of Haste ages you by ONE YEAR. 8(

Worst suggestion ever. I think you've beaten all of H4x's suggestions in the bad suggestions category.

[rest]

Looks like someone has a new forum identity and a new thread icon choice.

[Khanyth]

How is it H4x?

PvP hasn't been mentioned at all.

[rest]

Yet.

I'm sure part of his Witless Relocation Program was to try to remain unobtrusive and keep undercover.

[vinzzt]

I'm surprised nobody ever mentioned about how 'maximum' age is determined. That would be a very interesting topic to see unfold...

I believe It's in the rule book ^^

Table: Human Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
35 years 53 years 70 years +2d20 years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.


Table: Elf/Drow Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
175 years 263 years 350 years +4d% years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

Table: Half-Orc Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
30 years 45 years 60 years +2d10 years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

Table: Lightfoot Halfling Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
50 years 75 years 100 years +5d20 years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

Table: Hill Dwarf Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
125 years 188 years 250 years +2d% years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

Table: Half-Elf Aging Effects
Middle Age1 Old2 Venerable3 Maximum Age
62 years 93 years 125 years +3d20 years

1. At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

(source Dungeon and Dragon 3.5e ruleset)

[FlyingTurtle]

With the tons of magical healing available, the lifespan of an Eberron human should be at least double that of an Earthling.

Have a cold? *Remove Disease*
Cancer? Heart Disease? AIDS? *Remove Disease*
Sliced your femoral artery? *Cure Critical wounds*
Lost an arm? Kidney failure? Brain Tumor? *Heal*
Heart Attack? *Raise Dead*
Jumped into a blender, and then got your remains incinerated? *Resurrection*

[Hendrik]

I'd be fine with this change in game as long as 1 year in real life = 1 year in game.

40 real life years from now, my Wizard will pick up another +1 int.


Also, hi H4x!

Wouldn't THAT be sweet. Bypassing punishment by using a new account is a big time no-no.

Oh MODs, take a look at this guy please.

/report sent.

[painindaguild]

nice explanation. its also correct. but its an explanation why elves for example are considered balanced in older versions.

the conclusion u suggest is gently said rubbish.

im 100% on ur side of the story that humans make elfs look like an epic ugly failrace, but there might be another solution.

[Hordo]

Dev's! seeing as there are certain pro's and con's about implementing this...but most races are being
undervalued and some overpowered because of this is lacking...

For example: why do you see alot of humans and h/orcs around..(don't get me wrong i don't hate 'em ) because they don't age.. they don't get the aging penalty that the P&P offers...(which helps balancing the races...) which in turn lets people make them the more logical choice... if so implemented, the solution leaves them that if they want to maintain their current strength.. reincarnate...

elves on the otherhand and other long lived races would be much appreciated for their longer lifespan.. as it should be... (cuz right now... go figure..)

just a thought... smile! ^_^

Couldn't stay away, hmm, H4x?

[Lorz]

/do not want

[Hendrik]

That is why there is an age limit.... when reaching that, your character becomes unusable unless you reincarnate... (that's the beauty of role-playing your character gets to die of old age)

Ohhh.. edit... still usable.. but as a ghost.. you can wander stormreach talk to players and npc's and travel from town to town.. but cannot run quest...

H4x, your not even trying anymore.

Idea's are the same bad one's, just the name has changed. And why not use your primary account?

Oh well, MODs please enforce rule #16 from Community Guidelines;

16. Users are entitled to one primary Community account for posting on the Community Sites. Players who are found posting from more than one account may be asked to declare a primary account and posting privileges will be removed from all other accounts. Secondary accounts created for the purpose of trolling or otherwise violating these Community Guidelines may result in the permanent ban of any and all associated Community and Game accounts, at the Turbine Community Team's discretion.

[Coldin]

No thanks. The only time aging ever came up in a PnP campaign was when a very significant amount of time passed, and it was more likely that our current characters would be relegated to NPC status.

It might be an interesting concept to add to an MMO, but not midway through it's life-cycle. Such an idea would have to be considered from the very beginning. Even then, I bet most developers would decide against it for reasons most people here have already stated.

[HallowedOne]

I'm up for it - my powergaming instincts are getting delighted with the prospect of having +3 int on my wiz