Why can't you read the LFM?

[Ilindith]

Note: I know not everyone does what I'm about to talk about, but it's ridiculous how often it happens. Don't feel targeted if you can read an LFM

So...today I decided to run some groups and this was the LFM.


So I get a request...I accept, and I quickly see these words "share plz"

Okay, usually I wouldn't really care that much, I can understand that in some places it would take more time to go grab the quest and that sharing would be quicker. Problem is...these are walk-up quests and the LFM said "know quests". So I kicked the guy and I quickly got a tell that goes like this...

"why you dismiss me for asking for a share so I dont have to find the right questgiver? -.- well welcome to my squelch"

So, obviously he did not know "know quest" as LFM said or he would have known he would have got the quest as he walked up to it.

I thought reading the LFM is the least someone can do before clicking a group on the list. I thought it was a simple thing to do but I guess I was wrong. So, why can't you read the LFM before joining a group? Why do you ask "what quest" when it's on the LFM. Why do you cry when you don't get buffs/heals when it's written "byoh/zerg". Why? WHY?

Please, learn to read the ****ing LFM.

[Phidius]

I'd ask for a PM with the name, but I'd probably spend the rest of my life reading through my Private Messages.

I never type "shr plz" into party chat until after I've zoned into the quest

[TheDearLeader]

I didn't read this; it was too long.

SHR PLZ?! XD

Really though. This is annoying. There are helpful players, who are willing to give first-timers a go through these. Then, there are players who do not. We all have our individual playstyle, and the best way to interact with each other it to respect these.

Sometimes? I'm cool with some new PUGs. I actually got complimented in a /tell the other day. I was running a PUG ToD, and there was at least one new guy (maybe another who didn't admit it?), and a third party, not in EW but in the Raid, who has done it before, thanked me for explaining it so nicely and patiently to the nub(s). It was a smooth run, and really only took maybe an extra 3 minutes. I can afford to waste 180 seconds here or there, or I wouldn't be on the forums making this post. *Caveat : Alcohol may have had something to do with my patience that particular night.

Sometimes though, I'm like Does/DDoS, and I just want to get this done, whatever *this* may be, and move on with my day. My LFMs will be tailored to express my particular outlook on any given day. Read these LFMs, or expect your willful ignorance to be your undoing.

[HallowedOne]

Considering how sometimes I unplugg my brain (and we all do sometimes), it might have come to that he didn't realize that a "walk up" is bestowed on the entrance.

A better action would be writing "it's a walkup..." . Then you'd either confirm that dismiss or he would reply "DOH!".

[TheDearLeader]

Considering how sometimes I unplugg my brain (and we all do sometimes), it might have come to that he didn't realize that a "walk up" is bestowed on the entrance.

A better action would be writing "it's a walkup..." . Then you'd either confirm that dismiss or he would reply "DOH!".

His angry /tell afterward seems to imply that its more than a simple "oops" moment.

Someone saw a quest in his level range, and clicked.

SHR PLZ, over Mic or in written word, should only be used in jest. Or for Relic of a Sovereign Past. >.<

[Ilindith]

Sometimes though, I'm like Does/DDoS, and I just want to get this done, whatever *this* may be, and move on with my day. My LFMs will be tailored to express my particular outlook on any given day. Read these LFMs, or expect your willful ignorance to be your undoing.

Exactly my point, read the LFM to know what's going on, mine this time was zerg/byoh and it was clearly written. I do not always makes groups like this and I'm usually glad to help new players to learn. But when I make a zerg group, I expect zerglings to join.

[HallowedOne]

His angry /tell afterward seems to imply that its more than a simple "oops" moment.

Someone saw a quest in his level range, and clicked.

SHR PLZ, over Mic or in written word, should only be used in jest. Or for Relic of a Sovereign Past. >.<

If it was an "oops" moment, do you expect he would have his "doh!" moment after beeing dismissed so quickly?

The OP attitude is expected, as is the answer after the dismissal. I'm pointing out that our assumptions sometimes can be extreme - and considering that he formulated a coherent phrase, still beeing polite, I think your own assumption might not be so correct.

At any rate, just my 2 cents.

[DelScorcho]

People read "BYOH, Zerg, IP" as "don't bring pots, scrolls, or any actual awareness of where the mission is located". I've gotten a new found respect for duoing missions with the cleric hireling.

[MrWizard]

wow...read the LFM..where have I heard that before?

remember, read the lfm does not apply if you are 20 and believe you should be in the group, no exceptions...

[stoopid_cowboy]

I had a smiliar experience after my last TR. My LFM said "TR XP grind Know your stuff or move along".
First quest in the harbor, someone hits my LFM. Mind you the quest is listed and the difficulty is listed. Fighter clicks the LFM and promptly says "shr plz". No hello, no how ya doin, no **** you, just shr plz. BOOT! He of course answered with "Why did you boot me?" My response was pretty straight forward "I am not in the mood to deal with lazy."

To the OP, I hear ya. If you can't read the LFM you are probably not going to be a positive contributor to the group.

yuda

[QuantumFX]

Unfortunately you will find a lot of idiocy out of the “You better be nice to me! I’m new!” crowd. A couple incarnations ago I was XP sacking gianthold with a PuG bard, a paladin and a cleric. We agreed to do Trial by Fire and it was looking like everyone was working well together. The paladin and cleric were claiming that they were “Zoning into the explorer area” so the bard and I stepped in and let them know this over chat. That’s when the stupid reared it’s ugly head. “OMG You’re going to give us a late entry penalty!” and dropped group.

[Chai]

wow...read the LFM..where have I heard that before?

remember, read the lfm does not apply if you are 20 and believe you should be in the group, no exceptions...

Especially if the LFM states 16-19, then you should definately be inviting 20s, because according to the logicians, theres no absolute logical reason why that group should be excluding 20s.

This thread definately lacks the entertainment value of the last LFM thread, heh.

[ddo4u]

I am thinking that most of the people who can not, or will not read LFMs, also can not, or at least do not read the forums. Just Sayin' .

[silverraven]

His angry /tell afterward seems to imply that its more than a simple "oops" moment.

Someone saw a quest in his level range, and clicked.

SHR PLZ, over Mic or in written word, should only be used in jest. Or for Relic of a Sovereign Past. >.<

QFT

I had a smiliar experience after my last TR. My LFM said "TR XP grind Know your stuff or move along".
First quest in the harbor, someone hits my LFM. Mind you the quest is listed and the difficulty is listed. Fighter clicks the LFM and promptly says "shr plz". No hello, no how ya doin, no **** you, just shr plz. BOOT! He of course answered with "Why did you boot me?" My response was pretty straight forward "I am not in the mood to deal with lazy."

To the OP, I hear ya. If you can't read the LFM you are probably not going to be a positive contributor to the group.

yuda

I share whenever this happens. I just dont share the one I'm running Illiteracy is a horrible problem in this day and age but there's a difference between "reading" and "understanding".

[PopeJual]

His angry /tell afterward seems to imply that its more than a simple "oops" moment.

Someone saw a quest in his level range, and clicked.

SHR PLZ, over Mic or in written word, should only be used in jest. Or for Relic of a Sovereign Past. >.<

I always make sure I'm either inside the quest or at least in a wilderness zone when I say shr plz.

[stoopid_cowboy]

I share whenever this happens. I just dont share the one I'm running Illiteracy is a horrible problem in this day and age but there's a difference between "reading" and "understanding".

I do that all of the time! I beleive every lvl20 character in EW has Cannith Crystal. When doing guild raids that quest is shared every time someone says "shr plz".
Now if I could just figure out how to share Miller's Debt....

yuda

[MalikiGoddess]

I'm over in G-Land, but the other day I had a Hound up, and about 5 people hit the LFM immediately after I put it up. I still had some guildies joining, so I was saying hello to them and then proceeded to bring up the create party window up so I could see who had requested to join. About 3 down on the list was this paladin. I am in no way an elitist, so I was just going through making sure we had 'x' amount of melees, healers, casters, etc. I was just about to hit accept on the paladins request, when I get a tell.

"Youre a ******. Squelched!"

And when I went to message them with an, "Excuse me?" I was indeed squelched.

Talk about impatient. I was so confused by the ordeal that I didn't even have time to write down the person's guild name.

I mean seriously, you can't wait 2 minutes for an accept.... I'm kind of glad I got squelched in that case.

[NaturalHazard]

shr plze!!

[EustaceTrevelyan]

I've really really started hating "share plz." I'm not averse to throwing someone a share, since it's sort of the norm at the zerg levels, but I hate when ppl join, and the first/only thing they say is share plz.

Here's what i'm advising new players: actually run around and collect a bunch of quests in the area you're interested in. Takes less time than you'll wait to fill a group. If you forget/can't find one, or they're doing house k rep, but the giver on one is in house d or something, THEN you can say sometjhing like, "oh, musta missed that one, could someone throw me a share?" Or even make something up, like "arrrgh, sorry, this is an alt, forgot i haven't done that one yet, could someone...?"

I am absolutely not against people that know absolutely NOTHING about the quest, or whatever, and say so up front. If they're the kind who will listen, ask advice, etcetera, we're willing to help. If they're just totally clueless and annoying, we're not. It's not elitism, we just don't like permatards.

"Share plz" is a four-letter word.

[KillEveryone]

I completely understand.

Good luck getting people to read the LFM though.