Two handed fighting and doublestrike errors

[SardaofChaos]

So I've been experiencing some strange behavior on my fighter. I will be fighting things and I will hit them twice with one swing. This happens often enough that it's noticeable. I regularly use the Hellstroke Greataxe, but this particular occurence seems different from the normal doublestrike in that it happens with only a slightly lower frequency when I'm not even using that axe. As far as I can tell, I have no enhancements or items that would otherwise give me a doublestrike chance. Is this possibly a bug with glancing blows, wherein I am both hitting the creature and glancing it for a total of two hits? This only happens on my fighter, as he is the only twf'er I have.

[donfilibuster]

Define often for example, in comparision with natural 20s, which are 5%.
You normally can count your strikes from 1 to 20 and get a vorpal roll in less than 20 more often than not.

Afaik there's no base % so with hellstroke axe only 3% should occur.
3# is considerably harder to count than 5%, you can very well have streaks of zero proccing.

However, anything above 6% is likely to result in frecuent strikes, unless you kill the monsters in few hits.
On stronger monsters you tend to throw a long string of attacks that will result in doublestrike, hence is easy to notice.

This is one of the reasons when to use vorpal and when not, if you kill them fast use a damaging weapon, if they aren't too weak use crit weapons and if they are strong than it takes a lot of hits then use vorpal. Same goes with doublestrike.

It could still be the glancing blows, but you normally can tell which are glancing blows.

Also, there's threads about bugs in doublestrike like http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=284424

[ChaosEmperorDragon]

Glancing blows from two-handed weapons do hit single targets.

[sephiroth1084]

Do you have the fighter capstone?

[t0r012]

Is this possibly a bug with glancing blows, wherein I am both hitting the creature and glancing it for a total of two hits?

this but it isn't a bug, its normal.
some of the time you will hit and get a normal glancing blow, other times you will hit and get a glancing blow and the effects will process. As you get more THF feats and or racial AP bonuses you will see more glancing blows with effects processing.

[SardaofChaos]

@don
I'm talking about when I'm just using say an everbright axe when killing oozes, where there should be 0 doublestrike chance.

@Chaos
I have no idea what you mean by that

@sephi
No, this is only a level 8 fighter

@t0r
I'm not talking about swing once, monster x gets hit for main damage and monster y also gets hit for damage, I'm talking about swing once, monster x gets hit for damage and then also damage, with absolutely no space in between the two lines of numbers floating up. Like, monk attack numbers, they're that close together.

[Kourier]

Glancing blows do hit your primary target... Is that what you mean?

[RudyMcghee]

I think what you are dealing with is glancing blows, not doublestrike. Try using a weapon with effects like burning and you will see that the second will not usually have that extra effect. It will occasionally if you possess some or all of the THF feat line.

[jortann]

I was noticing this the other day as well on my level 5 fighter using a +1 Flaming Greataxe.

You get like 42(skull)6(fire)6(skull).

And I was thinking the same thing at first - doublestrike? But then I was guessing glancing blow. I just didn't know that glancing blows would hit your primary target but it looks like they do.

[SardaofChaos]

I do have THF, I guess it must be glancing blows triggering then. Now for the question that spawns: is this WAI?

[sephiroth1084]

I do have TWF, I guess it must be glancing blows triggering then. Now for the question that spawns: is this WAI?

Glancing blows can have weapon effects (such as Holy) show up on them, and can be for quite a bit of damage as you attain more feats (a barbarian with all the feats ends up with glances for 60% of their main damage). Did you check your combat log?

[ChaosEmperorDragon]

@Chaos
I have no idea what you mean by that

I do have TWF, I guess it must be glancing blows triggering then. Now for the question that spawns: is this WAI?

I am talking about THF (two-handed fighting) not TWF (two-weapon fighting.) No feats are required when THF to have a 20% chance for a glancing blow. This glancing blow typically appears directly below your primary attack when the damage numbers appear on your screen. Even if you are fighting a single mob, in one swing you can hit it with your primary attack and get the added benefit of damage from a glancing blow. This is the way it is intended to work.

[SardaofChaos]

I am talking about THF (two-handed fighting) not TWF (two-weapon fighting.) No feats are required when THF to have a 20% chance for a glancing blow. This glancing blow typically appears directly below your primary attack when the damage numbers appear on your screen. Even if you are fighting a single mob, in one swing you can hit it with your primary attack and get the added benefit of damage from a glancing blow. This is the way it is intended to work.

Sorry, meant to type THF.