Let Us Reset Skills Like Enhancements

[Ganolyn]

I don't care if it's DDO Store only, just let us do it!

[ToKu]

I don't care if it's DDO Store only, just let us do it!

You can with Lesser Reincarnation.

[Ganolyn]

You can with Lesser Reincarnation.

Yes, but what if you just want to shuffle some points and not have to start over?

[ToKu]

Yes, but what if you just want to shuffle some points and not have to start over?

I would think a LR would still be superior in the sense that it would take tomes into account you may not have had the first time around, it would also let you redistribute stat points should you wish that may also impact the number of skills you have.

I get what your saying, but the option is already available so I really dont see the need for a more limited version, especially since unless it cost the same as a LR, they would lose out on sales, and if it cost the same, what would be the point?

[NadgersFishtoaster]

This idea is moderately appealing because I've a few skill points misspent here and there with some characters, while I was deciding whether Tumble was worthwhile, for example.

If Turbine offered some reasonable means for such a clean up, I'd be interested.

[Ganolyn]

I get what your saying, but the option is already available so I really dont see the need for a more limited version, especially since unless it cost the same as a LR, they would lose out on sales, and if it cost the same, what would be the point?

The same point it is to have extra bank slots of twenty spaces available for the same price as a new character slot with eighty spaces: convenience.

I would even accept being able to shuffle one category with another one for a fee each time.

[Gorbadoc]

Yes, but what if you just want to shuffle some points and not have to start over?

Then you LR and set everything else the same as it was before, and just adjust those few points.

If you're asking for an automated accountant to help you with the numbers, well, okay. That's different from what you asked for in the OP, though. Please say what you actually mean.

Or maybe you mean that LR is too expensive, and you want a cheaper option to adjust only skill points? Again, please say what you actually mean.

[Gorbadoc]

The same point it is to have extra bank slots of twenty spaces available for the same price as a new character slot with eighty spaces: convenience.

I would even accept being able to shuffle one category with another one for a fee each time.

Out of curiosity, how often do you see yourself needing to adjust skill points?

[Ganolyn]

Then you LR and set everything else the same as it was before, and just adjust those few points.

If you're asking for an automated accountant to help you with the numbers, well, okay. That's different from what you asked for in the OP, though. Please say what you actually mean.

Or maybe you mean that LR is too expensive, and you want a cheaper option to adjust only skill points? Again, please say what you actually mean.

Well, I haven't ever used Reincarnation, but it was my understanding that you go back to level 1, with different abilities/stats/classes accessed by using different levels of it. I thought I was pretty clear in what I asked for: A way to reset skill points like enhancements and that if it was a pay only service I was good with that.

And I think I might use it quite a bit as I like to use my Enhancements as more level appropriate and reset them to more useful configurations when I get better gear and higher level Feats. I'd like to be able to do that with skills too.

[Gorbadoc]

Well, I haven't ever used Reincarnation, but it was my understanding that you go back to level 1, with different abilities/stats/classes accessed by using different levels of it. I thought I was pretty clear in what I asked for: A way to reset skill points like enhancements and that if it was a pay only service I was good with that.

Maybe we disagree about what 'like' means? As far as I'm concerned, Lesser Reincarnating is exactly like resetting enhancements in the relevant senses: When you reset enhancements, you start, and ten minutes later your enhancements are set differently. When you Lesser Reincarnate, you start, and ten minutes later your skill points are set differently. Granted, with LR you can modify OTHER things as well, but you can set anything the same as it was if you so desire. And, granted, there's more accounting involved in Lesser Reincarnating; gotta have your new version planned out in advance, lest you make a mistake.

Are you asking for a difference of process? You want a different user interface? Though if you've never lesser reincarnated, I'm not sure what your basis for comparison is.

[Ganolyn]

Are you saying the leveling up process for reincarnating allows you to level up to your former level without having to replay levels?

[TheDearLeader]

Are you saying the leveling up process for reincarnating allows you to level up to your former level without having to replay levels?

Yes, if you Lesser Reincarnate.

There's the wiki's page. Quick breakdown:

LR: It starts you on a ship, at level 1. It continuously grants you XP necessary to get back up to level 20, and you take all the levels again. You can change stats/feats/skills, but not things like alignment and gender. You are literally level 20 as fast as you can get through the leveling screens.

TR: Where you start at level one, and start the long grind back up to 3.1 million experience. These are the people with the blue glows upon zone-in and the wings.

[Ganolyn]

Well then,



Nevermind!

[Doxmaster]

Well...we cleared that up quickly. 1 Page! I'm rather proud actually.

[Ganolyn]

I'm not saying it still wouldn't be nice to be able to reset skills anytime, but if there is an accepted way it can stand. I just was under the false impression that any reincarnating forced you to replay the levels.

[ToKu]

I'm not saying it still wouldn't be nice to be able to reset skills anytime, but if there is an accepted way it can stand. I just was under the false impression that any reincarnating forced you to replay the levels.

Not false, there are just multiple forms of reincarnation. The lesser works in a similar fashion to what you want, starting you at level 1 but giving you enough xp to get back to where you were prior to the LR. True reincarnation works the way you were thinking, you restart at level 1 and must level up again, it also requires more xp to reach cap.

[Farayon]

The ability to go to one's class trainer and reset only skill points for a (small) platinum fee once a fortnight or so (just as we can with our enhancements) might be interesting.

It would benefit new players who maybe wasted skill points in useless skills without needing to reroll or buy a lr.
It would be fair in those rare situations like when Paladins got intimidate(?) as a class skill recently.
It would offer marginally more flexibility while leveling.

[Lorz]

Op just to recap this for ya.

Everything you just posted up wanting added...is already IN the game.

Really....

[krud]

The ability to go to one's class trainer and reset only skill points for a (small) platinum fee once a fortnight or so (just as we can with our enhancements) might be interesting.

It would benefit new players who maybe wasted skill points in useless skills without needing to reroll or buy a lr.
It would be fair in those rare situations like when Paladins got intimidate(?) as a class skill recently.
It would offer marginally more flexibility while leveling.

It's bit more complicated than simply shifting a few skill points around. There is no way of knowing when the skill points were assigned and whether or not the points you move were 1:1 or 2:1 cross class skills. You could easily end up with more overall skill points than you could have possibly obtained thru the normal leveling process.

They could potentially add a respec for skill points only; having you start your skills at level 1 and reassign them as you speak to the trainer. However, with lesser reincarnate available, I don't see this as a pressing problem.

[Gorbadoc]

Well...we cleared that up quickly. 1 Page! I'm rather proud actually.

I'm pretty sure we're statutorily required to make good-natured jokes about Ganolyn for the next three days, though. Normally, it would be a full week, but it gets bumped down for the Gilda Radner image.