WF Archmage vs. Human Pale Master (TR 34-point)

[HeavenCry]

Here are the three builds i made (no items, i just took a few minutes in DDOChargen).

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Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 252
Spell Points: 1585 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 16
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         17                    20
Intelligence         18                    30
Wisdom               10                    12
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                    -1
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         4                     9
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                  1                     1
Hide                 -1                    -1
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  3                     3
Listen                1                     1
Move Silently        -1                    -1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                5                    10
Search                5                    10
Spot                  1                     1
Swim                  3                     3
Tumble               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Evocation


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Force I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Force II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Force III
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Force I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Force II
Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation III
Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage II
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage III
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage IV
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage V
Enhancement: Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Enchantment
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery I: Evocation
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery II: Evocation
Enhancement: Enchantment I - Hypnotism
Enhancement: Evocation I - Magic Missle
Enhancement: Evocation II - Gust of Wind
Enhancement: Evocation III - Chain Missles
Enhancement: Evocation IV - Fire Shield
Enhancement: Evocation V - Cyclonic Blast

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Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 1680 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 16
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         18                    22
Intelligence         18                    30
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                    -1
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         4                     6
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                    -1
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  2                     3
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                    -1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                    10
Search                4                    10
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  2                     3
Tumble               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Empowering II
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening II
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements III
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 262
Spell Points: 1680 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 16
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    14
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         17                    20
Intelligence         18                    30
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                    -1
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                 -1                    -1
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  1                     2
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently        -1                    -1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                    10
Search                4                    10
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Empowering II
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening II
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements III
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III

I want to have a solo viable (or at least a very self sufficient) wizzie, which can kill efficiently and do good CC. I also want to be able to pvp as good as i can (so immunities to hold, pws, stone to flesh and alike are always nice).

Which would you choose and why? Would you change anything on them?
Any comments and advice are welcome .

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I have a WF Pale Master that I absolutely have a blast playing! The only differences from your build are:

(a) I started with max CON and INT, throwing extras (from being a TR) into STR

(b) I took Extend at L1, Maximize at L6, Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment at L15, and Greater Spell Penetration / Arcane Initiate at L18 (depending on TR or not). I did not take Insightful Reflexes or Mental Toughness; Insightful Reflexes benefit is marginal unless you have evasion (in my opinion) and Mental Toughness does not add enough SP to be a contribution that matters.

(c) I took the minimum amount of Energy of the Scholar enhancements to get Pale Master III, no Improved Quickening, and spent more enhancements on Improved Maximize and Spell Penetration. I think.