Thanks for your replies.
Hit lvl11 over the weekend. So far healing with repair serious pots, wands, and repair serious spell. The spell hits for about 60-70 with maximize and empower on. No potency gear at all. Fire walls are doing great. I actually was taking maximize off and still killing stuff just fine. At this point I do have some of the energy enhancements so that is helping. Melee dps is pretty good.
I had one guy tell me the build looked gimp when I requested to join his party. I didn't get angry, I simply explained the build and that he is a TR with 30 str and good gear and he let me in his party. After a number of runs together, he complimented me on the build. I was first or second in kills in all the quests. I've had quite a few complements from people after running with them. This build has been a lot of fun for so many reasons. The melee love that I keep them constantly hasted. Its easier to notice when it runs out because I actually benefit from the haste too.
Right now he is 7wiz/2monk/2ftr with around 230 hit points and 525 spell points. Maximized and empowered firewalls make a large dent in the mana pool but with better gear and more wizard levels, that will rise significantly. No real great gear yet. +1 paralyzing handwraps are nice. Have some +3 holy burst also. Have some lvl12 stunning +10 waiting for me but even without stunning wraps he is stunning fine so far. The high str and enhancements taken are helping quite a bit. Regular +5 stat ml 11 jewelry and clothing, a minos, and a bladesmark docent. To hit was an initial concern but hasn't been a problem at all yet. I was doing wiz king, a lvl12 quest, when lvl10. Generally being 2 levels below quest level makes everything tougher about it but this guy played just fine. If anyone is playing a similar build, I hope you are having as much fun with it as me. Will update in a couple levels.
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Thread: Dethstun Lichfist
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03-14-2011, 01:58 PM #61The Hatchery
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If you're having fun, then you're doing it right.
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03-16-2011, 01:23 AM #62Community Member
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I'm on Argonesson with my Frenzied Lich, we should do some raids or something when you're higher lvl! Is Dethstun the toon that has this build?
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03-22-2011, 02:44 PM #63The Hatchery
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Actually FistsOfDeth is the toon with this build. I haven't been playing much lately. Just beat Dragons Age 2. Fun game. I'm sure I will still play some but I've honestly gotten a little burned out. The next update doesn't sound so great so far either. We'll see. I'm sure I'll get on and play some soon. Hit me up.
Originally Posted by Zirkhan
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03-31-2011, 02:46 PM #64Community Member
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It's unfortunate that after Update 9 I'm not going to be able to use Lich form anymore. They changed it to min lvl 18 pale master III. So, I'm gonna lose out on 4 con and 2 int. I don't care much about the wis loss. It's getting replaced with Shroud of the Vampire. So, I guess my toon will be a frenzied vampire. Meh
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03-31-2011, 03:08 PM #65Community Member
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Sadly the idea of racking up lots of ki from stun auto-crits with fire stance and monk way is gone too. But as an alternative, we got Zombie Form at PM I. If you'd like to play a similar build after U9 is out, please check out my attempts below.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=309362 for as high DPS and stun DCs for a PM as possible.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=308813 for an effective, but under estimated tank/solo build.
Sorry for the thread jacking, but i could really use some feedback.Last edited by krisz93; 04-10-2011 at 12:16 PM.
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04-01-2011, 03:30 PM #66The Hatchery
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Vampire form is a viable option. +2 str and cha, unarmed does 1d6 con damage, and each hit on your enemy heals you for 1 neg energy damage. Should work fine. As far as ki generation goes, this build uses stunning blow so its not overly dependent on ki generation anyway. They may fix the ki gen problem before it goes live also. Originally Posted by Zirkhan
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04-01-2011, 03:42 PM #67Community Member
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12 wiz 6 monk 2 ranger H-elf Arcane Archer for manyshot/PM/that uses handwraps when meleeing. I have been wanting to make one of those, but doubt its feasiblity without a ton of past lives/reincarnates.
Edit: you could also go with elf and have the elven wizard spell penetration enhancements (+6) which would be pretty cool.
Edit2: elven wiz enhance is actually +4 spell penetration.Last edited by maddmatt70; 04-01-2011 at 03:58 PM.
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04-01-2011, 04:17 PM #68Community Member
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I can't see the point in going 12 Wiz any more..
Let's compare the two builds.
Dethstun Lichfist
- +2 to stunning DCs. (Kensei I and Fighter Tactics II).
- A bit more self healing, not like we're gonna main tank on any raid.
- Better SP pool (by 160, big deal)
- Elemental manipulation and Maximize. Casting maximized damage spells will empty your SP pool in no time, leaving no more for buffing. Casting also breaks your attack chain and overal fighting speed so you won't get ahead in DPS.
- 1d6 Con on crits. By the time you get enough to make something helpless without auto-crits, it will be dead long ago.
Epic mobs take 10 points of con damage at most.
- More health (again, these are not tank builds)
- ~18% higher attack speed (don't know the exact calculation)
Zombie Ninja
- 2d10 Unarmed die. (yours is 1d6)
- 3d6 SA
- Touch of Death (whole point of dark path)
- Stunning Fists
- 25% incorporeality
- Improved Evasion with better saves
- Showy monk stuff like running on water and abundant step
These were the most obvious ones..
In your OP you state that you are trying to achieve the most possible DPS on a PM battlewiz. Yours is more like a survivalist with tactic feats, mine does a lot better DPS. Either make an all out tank that can solo a lot, or a max dps build, but it is not possible to be just as good at both at the same time. The point is to prove that you are beneficial to the group.
Sry if i couldn't make myself clear, it's a bit late over here.
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04-05-2011, 02:20 PM #69The Hatchery
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Never said that. If you reread my original post it says "Also, this is meant to be a different/flavor fun build, not max, most possible dps." Originally Posted by krisz93
Zombie does have a higher die roll but will attack EXTREMELY slow. PM 2 gives higher bonuses to negative energy, which is what I was going for with this build. There are pluses and minuses to both builds. I'm happy you like yours. I still prefer mine. Play what you like. Enjoy.If you're having fun, then you're doing it right.
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03-13-2012, 07:50 PM #70Community Member
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ok i hav done my own build like this took it to 20 and TR'ed back into the same build doing a +5 LR 1st for monk past life, 1st off as a melee only go 12wiz maxed its not worth the next lvl of spells, she is only lvl 15 (12wiz/3monk at 20 she is gonna be 12wiz/6monk/2ftr) atm on 2nd life but her 1st life (missing alot of gear) she could get 50+ str and i cant remember the con but i kno that was 1 of my mistakes she didnt hav enough hp, so far this life she can get 30 str with just vamp form and rage and 26 con 378 hp she only has 22 int with a +6 item sitting at 1000 sp, but i did something most wouldnt i went light monk not dark for aligning the heavens 2 save sp plus i get other buffs that hav helped ALOT in some groups, if u want u can look her up name is dethspace on sarlona, i hope this has helped u in 1 way or another wether it be wat to do or wat not to do, oh ya and she is a drow and yes i see this as a mistake now but when i chose that race i was thinking less i would hav 2 put into int but its not an end of the world mistake ill just hav alil less hp she will still end up with around 550 hp
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03-14-2012, 04:46 AM #71Community Member
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No power to check if anybody said those before: Originally Posted by DethTrip
24con=+7=140 HP,Wizard=an other 4*20=80,for total 220 HP,And with all your boosts395.Thats not that high.
In addition,27 base str?I would like to see how come
as far as i understood you taken wizard12-means Vampier or Wraith,Not Lich.
Your reflex save is quite low,So you wont really benefit from your evasion.
Wizard level 12 cant nuke well,So you have no casting line.
You can maybe tank and selfheal,But your dps is low with around 28 str maximum,and your selfheals are 1d4*14/2 for total avrage of 2.5*7=18 per tick,Lets make it 20.
With no demage reduction,demage per second,Or any really basic i-kill-stuffs ability-20 healing per tick wont be the thing that will save you.
Try toreroll,Get CoN tomes,Increase your Con and Str,maybe dump int for Dex,get afew UMD,Replace fighter with paladin DoS,And you got a low shot to be a fine tank for sully.
But if you want an efficient selfhealing tank for sully-Take a warfoge paladin18/monk2 with Torc,Heal amp gear and maximize spell.
Or just warfoge barb 20.
Or dwarf barb 20.
Those will be way more simple and easy to masterize,and will be a bit more efficient then you in most of the cases.
Loved the basic idea,Tho.
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03-14-2012, 04:50 AM #72Community Member
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An other idea for a negative chaneller would be dark monk11/wizard7/paladin2 with DoS,And zombie form.
just a tought.
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