Spears please

[doubledge]

yeah.... succubus with whip. not going to happen. if it does, i'm gonna spend 20$ to buy it till it is fixed.

but spears? even a four-year-old can make one.

sharp pointy stick.

[Fishcatch22]

Ona more serious note, my Drow Elf paladin with IC:P for his Rapiers would love a spear for DPS mode. Has to rely on MinII for DPS mode... This game really needs spears, for a good 2-handed piercing weapon.

[doubledge]

Halberds can slash and pierce, and can use the greataxe animation with a skin. it can be an al purpose weapon.

[andbr22]

ohh... this topic returns from time to time, and ofc:
/signed

Along with all rest 2H DnD implemented weapons that we lack (Battle scythes -> as exotic weapon, just go to Celurean hils (there are humans who wight with (normal) scythes, Chain - and it's cool range, whips - with preferably Dex to Dmg and fineaseable).
Also I don't understand why would scythes are soo bad in eyes of some people? DPS wies they are comparable with Falhons (ok fighter with one would be better tahn falhon fighter, but still weaker than with SoS; but Barbarians are this same with falhons and scythes (with falhons have more normal critics, while with scythes they would have fewer but more powerfull ones)).

[der_kluge]

Seems like they could add shortspear easily enough. It really would need its own animation. Maybe a couple. Each of which would actually look fairly goofy, IMHO.

"Spear" is a different beast. It's a two-handed version of a shortspear. Would also need special animations. I was wrong about the "reach" thing. Spear doesn't have reach, but a "longspear" does.

[katana_one]

I don't know how this is supposed to improve the game, but you ask for Spears, you get Spears:



You're welcome. :P

[Archmage49]

While on the subject, chain weapons would rock, flails, etc.

[Bradik_Losdar]

While on the subject, chain weapons would rock, flails, etc.

Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waR12siTWZ0
That would rock, and so would flails, etc.

Unfortunately they would require whole new animations be made for them (can't 'cheat' like you can for spears with the quarterstaff animation) and quite frankly I think that's what's holding them up from being included in the game - new aniamations are very time consuming, and thus expensive.

[Kominalito]

For the whole 'reach' part of spears - just ignore it for DDO. It overly complicates the combat system (and I hope isn't another reason spears have been left out of the game so far)

the "whole reach part" is the reason you use a spear in the first place. if ddo makes a spear i hope its not like you layed out.

[samthedagger]

I'm rather sick of seeing Spears on everything as it is. Magazines. Television. Billboards. It's like you can't get away from her!

Oh... you mean the big pointy things. Yeah, those are okay in my book.

On a serious note, I would love to see some polearms. Swinging a halberd around would look pretty awesome. Even if all they did was make them glorified quarterstaves, similar animation just a bit longer with funky blades and stuff at the end.

[eonfreon]

Rahl's Might, which is arguably a spear certainly has reach and is also considered a Monk weapon for "centered" purposes.
As a simple test go to the Vale. Go to the Bat rare.
Fight them first with your dual wielding weapons. Then switch to Rahl's Might.
You'll see how much easier it is to nail the buggers with Rahl's Might then when dual-wielding.

Rahl's Might has the same reach as any two-hander. It's actually quite a useful weapon for certain things.

[Bradik_Losdar]

the "whole reach part" is the reason you use a spear in the first place. if ddo makes a spear i hope its not like you layed out.

It could be one of the very reasons we haven't seen them in the game since launch FIVE years ago. If 'reach' is what's holding up getting polearms in the game, I say ignore it and give us some more weapons!

I wasn't proposing a permanent fix, just a 'jerry rig' system to get spears (and perhaps some other polearms) in the game quickly by using the quarterstaff animation.

But which would you rather have; new weapons (mostly two-handers - and some piercing at that!) that may not have 'reach' (initially) put in the game within a month or slog along another five years with nothing new at all....hmmmm

[IceCreamBlade]

what if we do throwing spears and polearms for melee attacks?

[krissonofpark]

Could you please add to the Game of DDO my favourite weapon in the world, a sharp pointy stick.
Because this is the best weapon ever.

/facepalm

Can anyone seriously say that the addition of Spears would make any sense, they only do the same damage as a Longsword, Battleaxe, Heavy Mace or an Arrow from a Longbow, they have the same range as a Hammer and nowhere near the range of a Bow (of any kind) and would require the addition of an entirely new weapon animation to use.

If someone was to suggest the addition of a new weapon could they please suggest a weapon that would in fact be better and/or more powerful than the ones already available, thank you.

I remember how the thread went when someone suggested the addition of Guns, so how come when someone says can we have pointy sticks it's "Yes can we have pointy sticks." But when someone suggested shooting Monsters it was "No you can not have that."

[FuzzyDuck81]

/signed, there are lots of 2handed slashing & bludgeoning weapons, but no 2handed piercing ones outside of a couple of named items.

[Khanyth]

/not signed

I understand why people would want them, but when push comes to shove, the stats on the spear wouldn't make it anything that special and it'd be more for novelty than it would for effectiveness.

The only thing I could see a spear be good for is a throwing weapon that would hit hard but not often.

[nibel]

Can anyone seriously say that the addition of Spears would make any sense, they only do the same damage as a Longsword, Battleaxe, Heavy Mace or an Arrow from a Longbow, they have the same range as a Hammer and nowhere near the range of a Bow (of any kind) and would require the addition of an entirely new weapon animation to use.

None of those weapons are a 2-handed piercing weapon.

[TheDude78]

dont know how you could have a druid without spears, just my 2cents

[krissonofpark]

None of those weapons are a 2-handed piercing weapon.

What's so great about a two-handed weapon, with a one-handed weapon your other hand is free, so you can hold a shield or another weapon?
And haven't the people of Stormreach moved beyond running around with pointy sticks, the technology of Eberron should will have out-dated the spear a long time ago.

[FuzzyDuck81]

What's so great about a two-handed weapon, with a one-handed weapon your other hand is free, so you can hold a shield or another weapon?
And haven't the people of Stormreach moved beyond running around with pointy sticks, the technology of Eberron should will have out-dated the spear a long time ago.

Many people like playing with 2handed weapons, they're the favoured weapon style of half orcs.. who are themselves often druids in eberron lore?

Plus, how has techonology passed beyond pointy sticks when you can get one handed pointy things which happen to be made of metal (rapiers, shortswords, daggers), sticks which arent pointy & sometimes made of metal, other times of wood (quarterstaff), smaller sticks with lumps of metal on the end (maces/hammers/morningstar), large sticks with lumps of metal on the end (mauls) & lumps of wood (clubs/scepters/greatclubs)?