Rouge help please

[kokoren]

okay so ive been looking for a rouge build but havent found one i like and with all the experimenting with diff builds im never getting to level one ive got 32 point build and vetern status no tomes and no epic gear my aim is a rouge whos good at being sneaky and back stabbing but is also able to get almost all traps and locks like a rouge should can anyone help please?

[Quarterling]

First of all, take a deep breath and use some periods.

Now, I highly recommend going the way of the assassin. It's too easy to gimp yourself in the other two PrE's if you're a beginner. You say you want to find and disable all traps? No worries about that, simply keep your search and disable device skills in their max ranks at all times. Also, you will want to try to find an item that boosts your intelligence and swap that item in and out when you need to find/disable a trap. There are also items that specifically increase both skills. Also, buy some +5 thieves' tools off of the auction house. They are around 2,000 to 5,000 plat for 50, so you may want to stick with +3's or +4's until you can manage a steady flow of income.

Humans and halflings are both good choices. Humans for the extra feat and halflings because they get bonuses to hide, move silently, and can get enhancements which boost sneak attack. Here are my recommendations for starting that are balanced.

Str: 14
Dex: 16
Con: 16
Int: 14
Wis: 8
Cha: 8

Note: Be sure to put at least one point of level ups (4, 8, 12, 16, 20) into dexterity or buy a +1 tome for it so that you can get greater two weapon fighting.

[nbennet]

Rouge is applied after the use of foundation cream. Most women lack the art of applying rouge effectively; they either apply it in excess or use too little.

An excessive coating of rouge ruins natural beauty. Choice of the wrong shades or mistake in using it properly makes a woman look ugly. Do not use rouge on the whole face including the temples and around the eyes.

The aim of applying rouge is to bring a glow to lusterless cheeks and make them attractive and natural. So, rouge should be so used as to heighten the natural lustre and not to display it by exaggerated use.

Rouge is available in three forms - liquid, cream and cake. Liquid and cream rouge is used after putting on foundation and before the use of powder. Whereas cake rouge is used after the application of powder.

The rouge should be of the same tinge as your skin. Fair skin needs lighter tinge whereas dark skin requires deep colors.

The purpose of applying rouge is to heighten the flush (red or pink glow) of the skin, so it should be applied only on those parts of the face which are naturally flushed.

Apply rouge on the cheek-bones, just below the eyes and towards the end of the eyes. Spread it with your fingers after applying it with a brush.

Do not apply rouge near the nose which otherwise would appear short and broad, nor near the eyes. If the rouge is spread below the cheeks, it gives an oldish look. Rouge applied on the chin gives an oval shape to the face.

[Kinerd]

Quarterling's advice is good. I would recommend the following tweak to the stat distribution:

Str 14
Dex 16
Con 14
Int 14
Wis 12
Cha 8

If you have an 8 Wisdom, you are going to struggle with spotting traps. This doesn't matter if you know where every trap and every box in every quest in the game is, but until you do it's nice not to have to fumble around guess-searching.

[Quarterling]

Oh yes, I forgot to mention, if you misspell "rogue" and the misspelling happens to be "rouge", you usually get posts like the third from the top above.

[Slink]

Whereas cake rouge is used after the application of powder.

The cake is a lie.

[Feithlin]

Another option would be to splash rogue, like an Exploiter build (Ranger 18 / Rogue 1 / Monk 1 or Fighter 1 if you don't have Monk). They're sneaky, they can do the traps. They are not backstabbing champions, but they do a very decent dps. An exploiter build is a lot easier to build and to play with than a rogue, which quickly becomes very tricky in solo. Rogue is probably the hardest class to begin with. When you will have experienced more traps and sneaking, you could create your rogue with some helpfull background.

[Entelech]

If you can't spell it, you probably shouldn't play it.

[SardaofChaos]

If you can't spell it, you probably shouldn't play it.

Once is a simple mistake/mistype, twice is a bad day, every single time you say it means something is wrong here.

[herdisleah]

What i do is simple and fast - instead of complicated tips, I apply in an E and 3 shape. E3 hits the forehead, cheekbones, and chin - the important parts to highlight. After that I rush out the door to work.

[Sambadd]

Once is a simple mistake/mistype, twice is a bad day, every single time you say it means something is wrong here.

There are several reasons that a person might mispell, or "Typo" a word repeatedly, that would go along with the lack of punctuation and akward sentence structure.

It does NOT mean the person is "stupid"... it means they have a medical condition, that probably went undiagnosed, and thus untreated.

Like me, they may have gone through K-12 as a "******".

Only luck placed me in the hands of someone who recognized the condition, and put me on a path to partial recovery.

The person posting made himself understood... why make fun and belittle, when you have no idea what, or why the post was written the way it is?

Just answer the question and move on... Us "Retards" really appreciate your time and effort more than perhaps the "Normals" do!

oyu lal avha a inec ayd!

[kokoren]

The cake is a lie.

the cake is very much a lie

[kokoren]

There are several reasons that a person might mispell, or "Typo" a word repeatedly, that would go along with the lack of punctuation and akward sentence structure.

It does NOT mean the person is "stupid"... it means they have a medical condition, that probably went undiagnosed, and thus untreated.

Like me, they may have gone through K-12 as a "******".

Only luck placed me in the hands of someone who recognized the condition, and put me on a path to partial recovery.

The person posting made himself understood... why make fun and belittle, when you have no idea what, or why the post was written the way it is?

Just answer the question and move on... Us "Retards" really appreciate your time and effort more than perhaps the "Normals" do!

oyu lal avha a inec ayd!

thank you for the help in explain but i am no ****** i just dont use English as my main language anymore and i script to much to know what punctuation is

[Calebro]

thank you for the help in explain but i am no ****** i just dont use English as my main language anymore and i script to much to know what punctuation is

I would have claimed ******, but that's just me.

[kokoren]

Another option would be to splash rogue, like an Exploiter build (Ranger 18 / Rogue 1 / Monk 1 or Fighter 1 if you don't have Monk). They're sneaky, they can do the traps. They are not backstabbing champions, but they do a very decent dps. An exploiter build is a lot easier to build and to play with than a rogue, which quickly becomes very tricky in solo. Rogue is probably the hardest class to begin with. When you will have experienced more traps and sneaking, you could create your rogue with some helpfull background.

I get what you are saying. i do have quite alot of experience with the game but not as a melee class as a caster. i can seem to get the hang of building one and im not worried about solo i always play my rogue with my roommate so its not that big of a deal im just looking for a good build that i can go off of and be successful in back attacking and sneaking attacking and can still get my traps and locks done.

[jortann]

I found this thread to be a great help when planning my rogue...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...dwarf+assassin

There is a lot of good discussion in the thread that will help you make the decisions you need to make.

Good Luck!

and Have FUN!

[kokoren]

I would have claimed ******, but that's just me.

yeah but i dont like to claim it because im not it. if i was trust me id gladly claim it and i could claim dyslexia but in the end it boils down to i spend most of my time looking at jibberish called script and speaking German so English i dont care weather its right or wrong people knew what i wanted to know they just decided they have nothing better to do then harass people

[Phidius]

Rouge is applied after the use of foundation cream. Most women lack the art of applying rouge effectively; they either apply it in excess or use too little.
...

Don't be sexist - most men lack the art, too!

[Alerax]

your build comes down to, are you one that beileves in a max DPS or are you looking to hit everytime? slash rogues to me, are an insult, a splashed horc rogue is just wrong. Everyones got their own thing tho. youll need INT for you DD skill, youll need wis for you spot skill (most will say "what is spot"....) Dex for reflex saves when you foul a trap, or need to run threw it. the edit . And str for all the pugs that think DDO is all about the DPS. I have a Dex and Int build that I love.

If your goin to go at it solo you will need build differnt than if your building a support toon, (anyone remember what that is?) and I wont give numbers cuz some jackoff will say how wrong everything is, lol. higher dex and int for your monkeying and skill points, str to cary your loot, Con is not a dump stat and your Wis for warning when traps and doors are hidden and you havent overkilled the quest to the point of remembering where every trap and door is.

Youll find a few very knowlageable Rogues around, most seem to be wanna be barbs but the SA dammage was too tempting. Read round, youll figure out whos who quick enough.

And lastly, it all comes down to you, your play style, your wants and needs. And always remember, ITS YOUR TOON. Do what you want with it.

[Artos_Fabril]

Dex for reflex saves when you foul a trap.

If you fail a trap (at level, regardless of difficulty) you've already done something wrong. None of your build decisions should assume you're going to blow up a box, your rogue should be designed to prevent it (and that doesn't mean max-int, drow mechanic with 6 con either). When you have to go *through* a trap in order to disarm it, your reflex saves become important, or when you're zipping in past the rest of the melee to take down a caster so it doesn't kill your poor, evasion-less groupmates.

And lastly, it all comes down to you, your play style, your wants and needs. And always remember, ITS YOUR TOON. Do what you want with it.

QFT!