Which GS first?

[Amandoras]

I'm a Kensai Fighter with THF making my first GS Greataxe.

I have been real slow on getting the mats to upgrade GS so I'm looking for advice on which Greataxe to craft first to achieve the most overall benefit across quests/raids/entry level Epics.

Should I craft a Mineral 2 first or a pure DPS version with Lightning Strike?

-Ghalun

[ArloOne]

Min II

[jurzey]

Min II

Seconded.

[rpv6752]

That is the route I'm going with.

[Xalerwons]

You can probably craft LitI while grinding the larges for MinII.

But yeah, finish MinII first.

[Sani_Medicor]

My character is only a level 14, so I haven't started working on green steel weapons yet. Out of curiosity though, what would I have to craft in order to replace my current weapon set?
+5 shocking burst icy burst dwarven axe of pure good with force crit (x2)

p.s. I also have a set of +4 metalline dwarven axes of pure good stashed away.

[Xalerwons]

My character is only a level 14, so I haven't started working on green steel weapons yet. Out of curiosity though, what would I have to craft in order to replace my current weapon set?
+5 shocking burst icy burst dwarven axe of pure good with force crit (x2)

p.s. I also have a set of +4 metalline dwarven axes of pure good stashed away.

Do you mean the mats to craft MinII DA?

This site works for crafting rather well

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[Sani_Medicor]

Nice site! Actually, I just meant what would I have to craft to outdamage my current weapon set. I'm guessing that's the code you posted above though.

[Xalerwons]

Nice site! Actually, I just meant what would I have to craft to outdamage my current weapon set. I'm guessing that's the code you posted above though.

MinII and LitII will out damage Metalline DA of PG quite easily (possibly double or triple weapon damage)

MinII has Keen, Slicing, 1d2 higher base damage, and most people go Holy, Acid Burst, Acid Blast for a minimum of another 4d6 per hit (Will also break the same DR as your current weapon set)

LitII does higher dps on 0 elec resist mobs that also don't have DR besides DR/evil (kind of rare except on trash)

[Amandoras]

Thanks all for the opinions. I was thinking MinII made more sense overall but someone in game was pressuring me to do the LitII instead almost purely for the lightning strike proc. He plays an arcane archer though so he can already bypass damage reduction with arrows while I obviously couldn't with that melee weapon.

I'm sold on building the MinII first and going from there.

-Ghalun

[Fishcatch22]

Min II is much more versatile and worth doing first.

[Khellendros13]

Greensteel Dwarven Axe and Greataxe are more than 1d2 extra base damage (Unless Xalerwons was stating the slicing dmg and misplaced that comma lol).

http://ddowiki.com/page/Green_Steel_Weapons

Dwarven Axe = 2d8 base damage
Greataxe = 3d6 base damage

I agree, if you do not have all the large ingredients yet, start a lit2 axe and just take it to tier2. Take the min2 to completion first, then finish the lit2. I would probably craft a HP item before finishing the lit2 though.

[p3n1x0r]

your first item, if not a wf, should be a triple negative immunity item i think.

then go for lit2, or min2 if you dont like grindin for those larges, and dont forget a triple holy weapon as well for a raise dead clicky

[hermespan]

MinII and LitII will out damage Metalline DA of PG quite easily (possibly double or triple weapon damage)

MinII has Keen, Slicing, 1d2 higher base damage, and most people go Holy, Acid Burst, Acid Blast for a minimum of another 4d6 per hit (Will also break the same DR as your current weapon set)

LitII does higher dps on 0 elec resist mobs that also don't have DR besides DR/evil (kind of rare except on trash)

This, but of course pit fiend bosses, where the DR is really important, are immune to acid. They aren't immune to electric. In fact they have 0 electric resists.

So on normal, there is no benefit of Min II over Lit II, in fact Lit II is marginally better (by 5 dps) when taking the DR into account. Lit II has 2 lightning procs, good or holy, and lightning strike. Those lightning procs average out to 15 or better. On normal Lit II is a wash or better compared to Min II. The occasional 500-600 lit strike offsets any deficiency (perceived or otherwise).

Min II is only better for pit fiends/mariliths when their DR exceeds 20 (hard/elite/epic)

As well Lit II is more dps on regular quests. It bypasses devil DR. It's a much better overall weapon than Min II.

This subject has been beat to death. I suggest you search the forum before posting new threads. People have already run the numbers on this. Min II is overrated. It's a must have, for things like VoD hard/elite and epic raids with evil outsider bosses, but for the amount of good it does, you're better off making a Lit II first, then using M/PG in those situations, until you get your Min II done.

I made my Min II's first and regretted it.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=263033

Read entire thread, especially Sirgog's contributions.

You have to build based on what you do. If you run a couple of shroud normals a week and are still leveling, Lit II is a much better first GS weapon. If you are in a guild and run ToD elite/DQ epic all the time, build a Min II first. The real right answer depends entirely on your playing habits.