archer/trapmonkey

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 04:44 PM

My GF has decided to join the fun and requested that I find a build for her. After some discussion, we determined that it will be an archer with trapmonkey skills. I searched the forums and could find only the old Ironbow build which seems outdated.

So, I've had to dauble in creating a build. Since this is my first build, I have come to the forums for criticism and helpful suggestions. (Please note: I've explained that ranged combat delivers less DPS than melee, but she wants to be an archer. So I've tried to make the best archer possible)

Ranger18/Rogue2

STATS: (level up points to go into STR or CON, full set of +2 tomes to be used at lvl7)

STR: 15
DEX: 10
CON:15
INT: 11
WIS:10
CHA:10

SKILLS:

Search, Spot and Disable Device to be kept maxed.
Remaining 2 points/lvl to go to either Open Locks or Hide and Move Silently.
Additional points (from creation or tome use or rogue level) to go into either Open Locks or Hide and Move Silently, if available, or whatever.

FEATS:

Toughness
Point Blank Shot
Weapon Focus, Ranged
Improved Critical, Ranged
Mental Toughness
Improved Mental Toughness
Power Attack
Favored Enemy: Undead, Giant, Construct, Evil Outsider, Elemental

ENHANCEMENTS:

Arcane Archer I
Conjure +2,3,4,5 arrows
DevotionII
Energy of the Wild III
Ranger Dexterity II
Favored Attack I
Favored Damage II
Imbue Force/Acid/ Explosive/ Terror/ Force Burst/ Slaying arrows
Ranger Skill Boost III
Sprint Boost I
Extra Action Boost I

Rogue Damage Boost I
Rogue Haste Boost I
Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Rogue Sneak Attack Training I

Aereanal Elf Damage I
Aereanal Elf Attack I
Elf Dexterity II
Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Racial Toughness II
Ranged Attack II
Ranged Damage II

I'm pretty new to the game and this is my first build, so I'm pretty sure there is room for improvement. Please let me know what you think.

**unbongwah** · 01-10-2011, 05:47 PM

OK, it looks like you're working from a 28-pt build, so I'm guessing your GF's account is F2P with nothing unlocked, though you do mention using a +2 Supreme tome. It's fairly easy to adapt a Tempest trapmonkey build like mine to AA instead of Tempest; just take the AA pre-reqs instead of the Tempest ones. For skills I would say the priorities are UMD, Search, & Disable.

If she might be interested in something more heavily rogue, I recently posted the Triple A: rogue 13 / ranger 6 / ftr 1. It's a 32-pt build, but can be made with 28 pts instead.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 06:17 PM

Yes, it's a 28 pt build and she's F2P.

It's not a supreme tome, it's a SET of +2 tomes, that I have banked for her character.

**MoreIdiotThanSavant** · 01-10-2011, 06:18 PM

Since she's all new to the game, I'd recommend Spot if she wants to do traps.

**GuntherBovine** · 01-10-2011, 06:21 PM

I don't have a lot of experience with builds, but here is my 2 cents:
1. Have your stats be even numbers. Having an Int of 11 instead of 10 does you no good
2. You want a high Dex for an archer
3. It is really important to know what your build is as well
4. It is important to know what play style your GF wants to play
5. The second Rogue level buys you very little - you are better off with 19/1

I can see many possible play styles:
* You are a melee fighter who charges to the front of the combat. Your GF hangs in the back and picks off casters and ranged with her bow. When the battle is over, she wipes out a wand to heal you. She also deals with the traps that come up
* You are a buff/CC arcane or bard who buffs up your GF and then freezes everyone in place for your GF to kill
* You are a arcane blaster. For small groups, you and your GF blast away. With larger groups, your GF sneaks down, kills the first one or two to pull aggro, and then you start throwing the damage spells

I would suggest using the AA Archer build from the Revisiting Paths thread as a starting point.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by MoreIdiotThanSavant

Since she's all new to the game, I'd recommend Spot if she wants to do traps.

Yes, Spot will be important, since we don't want to find the traps by running into them. The build keeps it maxed. Thanks.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by GuntherBovine

I don't have a lot of experience with builds, but here is my 2 cents:
1. Have your stats be even numbers. Having an Int of 11 instead of 10 does you no good
2. You want a high Dex for an archer
3. It is really important to know what your build is as well
4. It is important to know what play style your GF wants to play
5. The second Rogue level buys you very little - you are better off with 19/1

1. you are right about that. Maybe I should drop a point from Cha to put into Int. But I hate having any score lower than 10 because of the penalties....
2.I don't know why a high Dex is important for an archer. Wouldn't a high Str be just as good? Please explain.
3. I'm making an Axesinger to accompany her.
4. She likes to sit in back and pewpew. She doesn't like the chaos of melee or the pressure of healing.
5. Yes, the second rogue level buys very little. It looks like a mistake. Unbongwah's AA/trapmonkey goes with a level of fighter, I suppose for the extra feat, which seems like a better idea.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by GuntherBovine

I can see many possible play styles:
* You are a melee fighter who charges to the front of the combat. Your GF hangs in the back and picks off casters and ranged with her bow. When the battle is over, she wipes out a wand to heal you. She also deals with the traps that come up
* You are a buff/CC arcane or bard who buffs up your GF and then freezes everyone in place for your GF to kill
* You are a arcane blaster. For small groups, you and your GF blast away. With larger groups, your GF sneaks down, kills the first one or two to pull aggro, and then you start throwing the damage spells

The playstyle is she goes in and scouts out the enemy so we know what we're facing. Then we draw back, buff and she draws them to us, often killing a few as they come. Any that get close, get to meet my axe. When they get close, she draws her blades and joins me, or steps back and shoots from close range, or selects another target a bit further away, depends on the situation.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by GuntherBovine

I would suggest using the AA Archer build from the Revisiting Paths thread as a starting point.

Yes, that was a good starting point, there is alot of good stuff in there. I kept most of the feats and enhancements that he uses, and the starting stats are pretty close too.

Thanks for the advice Guntherbovine. Keep it coming.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-10-2011, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

. It's fairly easy to adapt a Tempest trapmonkey build like mine to AA instead of Tempest; just take the AA pre-reqs

I checked out your build, among many others, when I was researching this one. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention. It looked like it would actually need alot of adapting. The feats, enhancements and stats are geared to a melee character, while this build needs to be geared to a ranged character. It looks like it would need more changes than just changing the prereqs. When those changes are done, wouldn't it look alot like this build?

While looking it over again, I noticed that it had a fighter level, instead of 2 rogue levels, which looks like a good idea.

It's a human, which is probably best for melee, but wouldn't an elf be better for ranged?

I don't know how you get all the skill points in that build, and think maybe I've figured the skill points wrong in mine. It looks like you are getting 8 skill points/level: search(1)+spot(1)+disable(2)+Open Locks(2)+UMD(2)=8. But my math says you should be getting 7: 6 per ranger level +int bonus (12 int=+1). What am I missing?

**Brennie** · 01-10-2011, 07:53 PM

Quite a few things here. First to answer this question:

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

I don't know how you get all the skill points in that build, and think maybe I've figured the skill points wrong in mine. It looks like you are getting 8 skill points/level: search(1)+spot(1)+disable(2)+Open Locks(2)+UMD(2)=8. But my math says you should be getting 7: 6 per ranger level +int bonus (12 int=+1). What am I missing?

Humans get an extra skillpoint per level (x4 at level 1), exactly as if they had 2 more int.

Secondly, Dex is your to-hit for ranged weapons. With 10 dex you will be hitting a whole lot of nothing, unless you face the dreaded Broad Side of a Barn. Dex also affects your reflex save, which is very important on an evasion character. I'd also note that you cannot qualify for many important ranged feats with such a low dex, but fortunatly rangers get all the important ranged feats for free, regardless of their dex!

I know you don't like negatives, but you really need to weigh the importance of each stat to your overall build. Charisma, for example, gives you +1 umd and thats about it. Sure, +1 umd is nice, but is it as nice as +1 to hit and +1 to reflex saves? 10 wisdom is a good starting place for any ranger, but only if you can spare it. 8 wisdom is entirely doable, as long as you are willing to keep your girlfriend supplied with +wisdom items appropriate to her level (You'll be low on sp and not able to cast spells for a littl ebtit in the low levels, but yuo will catch up with a +6 wis item before you can cast level 4 spells, so in teh end it evens out).

Rogue2 gives you all of nothing. You get a couple more skillpoints and your rogue skills aren't crossclass for one whole level. You don't gain any more sneak attack damage, your Dex1 enhancement doesn't stack with the ranger dex 1, Rangers get evasion at level 9 and it doesn't stack, etc etc, so on and so forth. If you want 18 ranger (19 doesn't offer you much, so 18 is a good stopping point) for your pewpew/AA and 1 rogue for your rogue skills + situational sneak attack, that leaves you with 1 extra level to play around with. Fighter nets you an extra feat, barbarian gives you a rage and some faster movement (and doesn't force you to tank your skillpoints for a level, like fighter would), monk gives you a feat and some stances and some ac and inner zen. Fighter is the most popular option.

Also, for peak ranged efficiency, consider a pure 20 Ranger. Its a little bit more boring, and obviously can't handle traps and stuff quite as well, but is much easier to do stats (No need for int or charisma, so an elf can go something like 16/18/12/8/10/8, level up points in strength and 5 dex enhancements puts you nice and level for good to hit and good damage), faster access to Ranged/AA abilities (which is a small consideration, but the difference between slayer arrow at 18 and slayer arrow at 20 is pretty huge, as is Improved Precise shot at 11 instead of 13), and of course the ranger capstone.

Lastly, not to be Mr Negative, but letting your GF (who is new to the game) scout ahead will be an interesting/slow playstyle full of fun and discovery sometimes (Which is awesome), and a horrible, painful, death-filled experience most of the time (not so awesome). The reason for this comes from a) Triggered ambushes, b) un-spottable traps (Such as doors slamming shut behind you, floors falling out from underneath you, occassional traps with spot check ridiculously high for some unknown reason), c) enemies who auto-detect you, hidden or not (Spiders and oozes come to mind), and d) anything and everything that could pop her out of stealth at inconvenient moments, such as having to hit a door handle, getting struck by an AoE, accidently leaning on the left mouse button, etc. In all of these situations, your GF will be all alone ahead of the party while big bad things try to eat her. Also note, you will not find many PUGs willing to let someone scout ahead (however, if you plan to duo or guild run, that may be a non-issue).

On to the fun stuff! Since you seem to be loaded, judging from your stack of tomes, You may want to purchase in advance some fun items for the GF. Silver Bow, for DPS from 6 on, +1 Paralyzing Longbow or Shortbow (min level 10) right before she qualifies for improved precise shot (11-12 is where my AA ranger started to feel his DPS contribution was diminishing, but being able to keep a line of 2-5 enemies locked up in paralysis from level 10 onward kept me pretty satified in my ability to be a good group contributer. I'm also convinced that paralyzing enemies increases ranged DPS signifcantly, since you are guarenteed to continue shooting several enemies at the same time, instead of them running off and not being lined up anymore). Smiting is nice, Disrupting is great, Metalline will be handy (Metalline of PG will be super handy, if you can find one), and a DPS option for uncrittable enemies (Shocking Burst of PG works fine, or Holyburst since uncrittables are often undead). And remember that the + on bows is largely inconsequential to an AA. Generally, the lower the + the better

Good luck, hope this short dissertation helped!

**unbongwah** · 01-10-2011, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

But I hate having any score lower than 10 because of the penalties....

-1 is negligible in the long run. Starting WIS 8 makes casting spells a bit more of a hassle at low lvls until you find sufficient +WIS items (or can stay buffed w/Owl's WIS), but in the long run it's not a problem, either.

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

It's a human, which is probably best for melee, but wouldn't an elf be better for ranged?

Elf would have higher DEX & longbow enhs for extra ranged DPS; human would have extra feat & skill pts, higher CON & HPs, and other human goodies (Versatility, Imp Recovery, etc.).

But my math says you should be getting 7: 6 per ranger level +int bonus (12 int=+1). What am I missing?

Humans get 1 extra skill pt per lvl (4 at 1st lvl); it's one of the reasons why I went with human in my first build.

If your GF's wedded to the idea of elf, any chance you could unlock 32-pt builds for her first? If so, you could go with a build like this:

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Level 20 True Neutral Elf Female
(1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 292
Spell Points: 330 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 20
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            17                    24
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    11
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         2                     3
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     7
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  7                    10
Listen               -1                     2
Move Silently         3                     7
Open Lock             7                    25
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    27
Spot                  3                    25
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                7                    11
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct


Level 18 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

If not, you can start CON 12. It still works out, I just don't like starting with less than CON 14 on any build, but especially one which doesn't get Toughness until lvl 12 and is made up mostly of low-HP classes.

EDIT: you could also take the ftr splash a lot sooner; use it to meet one of your AA pre-reqs (PBS or WF Ranged) and take Toughness at lvl 3. This would boost HPs sooner, but you'd have to delay one of the Imp Crit feats (probably Slash) to lvl 12.

**wax_on_wax_off** · 01-10-2011, 10:38 PM

Human versatility: damage coupled with rogue haste boost and manyshot is an awesome combination.

You aren't restricted to elf being a ranger AA so it is important to look at other options (imo).

Halfling, human and elf are all good choices on a f2p account. Halfling has some excellent extra damage from the guile enhancements. Human has the extra versatility and skill points. Elf has the weapon enhancements.

Overall, I would probably suggest human as the extra skill points are useful to a ranger trapmonkey style character.

I leveled up a tempest version with 1 rogue and 1 fighter level and had an excellent time and never struggled with any traps. 1 rogue, 1 monk is a superior option if you can unlock it. I followed the paths revisited tempest build but put intelligence up to 14, human, improved critical: ranged as spare feat.

It is important to aim to have balanced strength and dexterity scores at level 20 to keep to-hit and damage high. 10 point investments into strength and dexterity is a good option though possibly you want to start with a 6 point investment into constitution and intelligence to start (never less than 6 point investment into constitution, I wouldn't go higher though on a 28 point build). This leaves 16 points to split between strength and dexterity, 10 into strength and 6 into dexterity is probably fine.

A tempest ranger still has very strong ranged abilities.

Skills: max UMD, search, disable. High: move silently, spot, balance. Medium: hide, open lock. Low: tumble (1) Optional skills: listen ...

**Eckenwiler** · 01-11-2011, 11:02 AM

@ Unbongwah:

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, especially the work you put into that build. Your advice is helpful and appreciated.

With the fighter level, you've added the Feat "Improved Critical, slashing". This seems like the way to go: Fighter instead of a second level of rogue and that's the feat to add. You've also replaced the Feat "Improved Mental Toughness " with "Extend Spell": this seems like it will be a good idea, if the spell points are used for buffing. Alternatively, if the spell points are used primarily to imbue and conjure arrows, then "Improved Mental Toughness" will be the way to go. This decision can be put off until we see how My GF plays this build. Would you agree?

I like the allocation of skill points and the resulting skill levels. Unfortunately, I won't be unlocking 32 point builds soon. (I like the idea of it being a favor reward and do not want to purchase it in the store) I also don't like the idea of a starting Con at 12. This will be a first character and the more HP the better. So It'll have to be a 28 point build and the Con will start at 14, preferably. So, I could drop Int to 10, Str to 15 and Dex to 16. I'd lose 1 skill point every level. Essentially this would mean I would lose 20 skill points and would probably have to give up UMD. (ouch) Alternatively, I could drop the Str to 15 and the Dex to 14 or Dex to 16 and Str to 14 (if I've done my math right) and keep Int at 12. Have I figured this correctly, and what would you recommend?

Another option would be to go Human. I could then drop the Int to 10 and still keep the skill points like you have them in your build. This would also give me an extra feat at first level, which I could use for Toughness. I'd have to give up the elven enhancements to bow attack and damage.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-11-2011, 11:09 AM

@ wax_on_wax_off:

Thanks for the advice, especially about the stat points.

Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off

Human versatility: damage coupled with rogue haste boost and manyshot is an awesome combination.

You aren't restricted to elf being a ranger AA so it is important to look at other options (imo).

Yes, I need to look closer at going human. This might be better than elf, as counter-intuitive as that is. Thanks fo

Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off

A tempest ranger still has very strong ranged abilities.

This is another option, but I'd rather make the ranged abilities as strong as possible, instead of "very strong". I believe this will suit my GF better.

**Eckenwiler** · 01-11-2011, 02:46 PM