let us use alters to make small shroud ingred into larger ones

[dmslasher]

ok heres an idea i was thinking of letting us used the alters in shroud to convert large numbers of smaller ingred into bigger ingred. i beleave this will help in the efforts to rid us of the massive number of extra smaller type ingred ppl seem to collect. it will still make ppl have 2 grind but make the proccess less flustrating for those who are of a less lucky type. now there is a couple ways this can be done you can make it so it has to be the exact type of ingred such as small scales makes a med scale. witch would be my perferd choice or you can make it 10 small ingerd make a random med ingerd (the ratio need not be 10 for 1.) this would still keep the spirit of the grind up. because you would still need to coleect a vast number of small ingred. to make a large (based on the ratio that is.) and IMO would be fair to new and older players alike. because new player would still need 2 grind out ingred and older player would be able 2 do something other then let there smalls just sit there or be pawned off at the AH

example
10 small = 1 med
10 med = 1 large

(again the ratio need not be 10 for 1)

Edit:
i also might bring up the fact that armor crafting allows this in reavers refuge and none ever complain about the addition of the names on the runes there. it in essence will make it a similar process

Edit:
Note it is still required to do full runs of the shroud.
A. you need to get supreme shards from the chests.
B. the only way to get cleansing stones are 20 completions of the shroud
c. if the last alter in the shroud is set to being the only place to crunch them then you would need to complete just to make them bigger.

[D-molisher]

Nah, would make it too easy ... GS is already owerpowered as is.

And i got 5 large devilscaled total since i started gaming DDO.
But i still like the special about getting that ... scale. Even if i find shroud boring & refuse to do if i have less than atleast 6 beers to spice it up.

[KillEveryone]

/signed.

I've way too many smalls and mediums that will be wasted since I don't have larges. There are only a few items that a tier II is fine but I'm not interested in making those items and cluttering up my backpack.

[MRH]

/not signed

All we would see then is prt 1 farming... because you could then just go to a guild airship who have the altars and that would defeat the whole purpose of the Quest.

too many smalls? give them to an alt...give them to a guildie....go to harbor and do a hide n seek and give them away as prizes...

[Astraghal]

/signed

Great idea, 5 smalls to make a medium, 5 medums to make a large.

[Captain_Wizbang]

nope!

too many things are nerfed already!

[KillEveryone]

/not signed

All we would see then is prt 1 farming... because you could then just go to a guild airship who have the altars and that would defeat the whole purpose of the Quest.

too many smalls? give them to an alt...give them to a guildie....go to harbor and do a hide n seek and give them away as prizes...

Even if this was implemented, to wear more than one item you still need that cleansing stone and then there is the possibility of +3 tome on the twentieth. People are not going to stop completing just because they can farm part one for ingredients. Even then, you still need all the shards of power to make your items. Still more, it would still be better to run 1 to 4 for ingredients because it doesn't really take that much longer to get the other chests and people that just want to farm are going to do only that anyway.

They could make it so that you have to complete specifically to do this and only allow it in the final alter that is specifically in the Shroud itself and not allow any other alter to combine ingredients to a larger one.

Even giving these away to aults, I still have a load of them. When I'm ready to craft something, I pool all my ingredients to that one character. There are way more than enough to make a whole bunch of stuff to tier II even after I make whatever tier III item I'm making.

Anyone with any intention of getting greensteel is going to have a load of these and it won't really do much to just give them away. They still have to get that shard of power and they will most likely have more than enough to get the first tier when they do get that first shard.

[dmslasher]

Nah, would make it too easy ... GS is already owerpowered as is.

And i got 5 large devilscaled total since i started gaming DDO.
But i still like the special about getting that ... scale. Even if i find shroud boring & refuse to do if i have less than atleast 6 beers to spice it up.

thats 3 more large scales then me. also emagine the poor ppl grinding it for 4 years

[sirdanile]

I wouldnt mind including this, but to make large scales include astral diamonds into the recipie.

You would sell so many diamonds...

OH and do deconstruction like that too.

[dmslasher]

Even if this was implemented, to wear more than one item you still need that cleansing stone and then there is the possibility of +3 tome on the twentieth. People are not going to stop completing just because they can farm part one for ingredients. Even then, you still need all the shards of power to make your items. Still more, it would still be better to run 1 to 4 for ingredients because it doesn't really take that much longer to get the other chests and people that just want to farm are going to do only that anyway.

They could make it so that you have to complete specifically to do this and only allow it in the final alter that is specifically in the Shroud itself and not allow any other alter to combine ingredients to a larger one.

Even giving these away to aults, I still have a load of them. When I'm ready to craft something, I pool all my ingredients to that one character. There are way more than enough to make a whole bunch of stuff to tier II even after I make whatever tier III item I'm making.

Anyone with any intention of getting greensteel is going to have a load of these and it won't really do much to just give them away. They still have to get that shard of power and they will most likely have more than enough to get the first tier when they do get that first shard.

yep!

[dmslasher]

nope!

too many things are nerfed already!

this would not be a nerf it would turn shroud grindin into a slightly less painful experiance.

[Bechtinger]

It's already in the game :P

The correct use of the auction house can give you larges for your smalls and meds :P
Thats the way I do it

[Kriogen]

Only if none of shroud mats are available in eStore.

As long as there is no 'eStore' im fine. If eStore is somewhere, not signed.

[NinjaNeed]

I like this idea but think 10/1 is too small. Make it 25/1 and its a very good idea!

Basically this would make a use for the small and medium mats we all got floating around while still not making it too easy to get larges. I would also say make the input and output completely random! So, pop in 25 small anything and get out one random medium. Obviously you would be limited to the max number of different items the stone of change can handle (5 I think).

[dmslasher]

Only if none of shroud mats are available in eStore.

As long as there is no 'eStore' im fine. If eStore is somewhere, not signed.

i think selling the ingred on the store would not be very good idea Ive seen lots of disapproval of that it just feels wrong having 2 buy the ingred you need. at least this solution would still be in the spirit of the grind.

[dmslasher]

I like this idea but think 10/1 is too small. Make it 25/1 and its a very good idea!

Basically this would make a use for the small and medium mats we all got floating around while still not making it too easy to get larges. I would also say make the input and output completely random! So, pop in 25 small anything and get out one random medium. Obviously you would be limited to the max number of different items the stone of change can handle (5 I think).

well i did note that the ratio is very subjective and could be set to whatever the dev's feel fair to all players. i personally would perfer that if you put in all of one type ingred. you get that ingred. but the random can work also if you just throw in random ingred as long as they all the same size. again something they can consider in this possible addition

[Unreliable]

no thanks.

You can already buy smalls on the store for 60 points each, if you can go from small-->med-->large that is essentially selling large scales in the store for real $. Ill pass.

[Seikojin]

Even if this was implemented, to wear more than one item you still need that cleansing stone and then there is the possibility of +3 tome on the twentieth. People are not going to stop completing just because they can farm part one for ingredients. Even then, you still need all the shards of power to make your items. Still more, it would still be better to run 1 to 4 for ingredients because it doesn't really take that much longer to get the other chests and people that just want to farm are going to do only that anyway.

They could make it so that you have to complete specifically to do this and only allow it in the final alter that is specifically in the Shroud itself and not allow any other alter to combine ingredients to a larger one.

Even giving these away to aults, I still have a load of them. When I'm ready to craft something, I pool all my ingredients to that one character. There are way more than enough to make a whole bunch of stuff to tier II even after I make whatever tier III item I'm making.

Anyone with any intention of getting greensteel is going to have a load of these and it won't really do much to just give them away. They still have to get that shard of power and they will most likely have more than enough to get the first tier when they do get that first shard.

+1 for that exact reasoning.

[dranreb]

It's already in the game :P

The correct use of the auction house can give you larges for your smalls and meds :P
Thats the way I do it

^Came here to say this^

Just sell the stuff you don't need, and buy the stuff you do need.

[bryanmeerkat]

I disagree , especially as you can farm the early stages for mats without completing .

~If you have a lot of left over small/medium ingrediants that you dont want , either sell/trade them or make yourself clickies . Haste , Stoneskin and True Resurection , Panacea , Summon Elemental , Displacement clickies are hard to have too many off ( some you may only need 1 or 2 for but still).