Request for Sub-Par Build Ideas

[unbongwah]

GreatCrossbow Kensai. For funzies you could even go elf, with a dash of bard or wiz, and take up whatever parts of AA actually work with crossbows (I heard force imbue works? I'm not 100% certain).

None of the AA abilities affect crossbows (or thrown weapons). That said, it wouldn't be too hard to add Rapid Reload and heavy repeater to a Kensai AA build so you could switch between longbows & repeaters. Seems like a PITA to me, but hey, that's what novelty builds are for, right?

Since the "quad-PrE" idea has been pretty well mined, here's a different sort of "gimped" AA build: rgr 6 / monk 2 / cleric 12. The idea is to be mostly focused on ranged DPS, but with good melee as well and better heals & buffs than a pure ranger would have.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Female
(2 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 267
Spell Points: 731 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 18
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            17                    22
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               12                    12
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead (swap for Evil Outsider at higher lvl)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting (or Improved Critical Ranged)


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Undying Call
Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I

If you wanted Zen Archery, you'd have to bump base WIS to at least 13. Could also take ftr 2 instead of monk 2: lose Evasion & WIS AC bonus; gain extra HPs, Haste Boost I, and +1 STR enh.

[OldAquarian]

lol, my latest, not so well recieved, 12 Cleric/6 Barb/2Fighter Half Orc - DPS? build
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=294165

[~Zornochio]

Another idea I always wanted to do was a permadeath elven wizard with 6 con, no bumps and wears no HP or Con enhancing items. Otherwise make it as good as it can be and see how long you can survive. (add a pugging requirement for extra challenge).

I did that with 1 monk level for Wind Stance. Farthest I got was level 5, fireballs got me every time

Drow pure Sorcerer DEX Intimitank (got to 10 PD)
WF Cleric/Barbarian (Bladesworn & Rage, lvl 12 PD)

[Falith12]

Here is a build i came up with a while ago, fairly gimp and strange:

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Mr. Giggles Jester of the Court
Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(6 Cleric \ 6 Wizard \ 8 Bard) 
Hit Points: 288
Spell Points: 996 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 11
Will: 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             13                 14                   14
Dexterity            11                 11                   13
Constitution         12                 15                   15
Intelligence         12                 13                   15
Wisdom               14                 14                   16
Charisma             14                 14                   16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               1                  4                    4
Bluff                 3                 10                   10
Concentration         3                 20                   20
Diplomacy             3                 21                   23
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                6                 25                   25
Heal                  2                  8                    8
Hide                  1                  2                    2
Intimidate            2                  3                    3
Jump                  2                 15                   15
Listen                3                  4                    6
Move Silently         1                  2                    2
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               5                  8                    8
Repair                1                  5                    5
Search                1                  2                    4
Spot                  2                  3                    6
Swim                  5                  6                    6
Tumble                4                  5                    5
Use Magic Device      6                  7                   10

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par +5 Holy Burst Metalline Longsword of Pure Good \par Aegis of Flame \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Shard of Light \par Visor of Concentration \par Blue Dragonplate Armor \par Bracers of the Glacier \par Chattering Ring \par Phiarlan's Ring \par Ash Boots \par Seven Fingered Gloves \par Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance \par Stormreaver's Napkin \par Minos Legens \par Conner's Pendant \par Bloodstone \par  \par Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longbow
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Spell (1): Grease
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I
Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Diehard
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll
Spell (1): Charm Person
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (1): Mage Armor
Spell (1): Sleep
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Spell (1): Otto's Resistable Dance
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Tumble
Spell (1): Jump
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Heightening I


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Spell (2): Scare
Spell (2): Hypnotic Pattern
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Heal (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Healing I


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Jump (+5)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (2): Suggestion
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity III


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Spell (2): Gust of Wind
Spell (2): Glitterdust
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum III


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (2): Invisibility
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Eschew Materials
Spell (3): Stinking Cloud
Spell (3): Sleet Storm
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum IV


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Haggle (+7)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Improved Diplomacy I
Enhancement: Improved Diplomacy II


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Perform (+1.5)
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Deep Slumber
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Perform (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Jump (+7)
Spell (2): Daze Monster
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (3): Charm Monster
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Haggle (+7)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Spell (3): Fear
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I