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    Default Favored Soul Improved Maximizing?

    My favored soul uses Maximize instead of Empower, but for favored souls there is no enhancement which reduces the sp cost for using Maximize. Can favored souls have these enhancements in future update?

    P.S. I don't know whether adding these enhancements will be against D&D rules or not. please let me know if it is.

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    Not against the rules, but also very unlikely.

    Clerics have their Empower Healing discount, Favored Souls get it on Empower. Neither gets discount on 2 metamagics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    Clerics have their Empower Healing discount, Favored Souls get it on Empower. Neither gets discount on 2 metamagics.
    Wizards have 5 such enhacements, but that doesn't mean they can get discount on 5 metamagics. Because spell casters seldom choose more than one improved metamagic enhacements due to limited action points.
    • Wizard Improved Empowering
    • Wizard Improved Enlarge
    • Wizard Improved Heightening
    • Wizard Improved Maximizing
    • Wizard Improved Quickening
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    Yes well, they get those because they are wizards and they have an extremely broad range of knowledge of magic.

    FvS will not be getting Improved Maximize. They already have plenty of SP to run Maximize 24/7 as it is. Making it -more- mana efficient would be going too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    Yes well, they get those because they are wizards and they have an extremely broad range of knowledge of magic.

    FvS will not be getting Improved Maximize. They already have plenty of SP to run Maximize 24/7 as it is. Making it -more- mana efficient would be going too far.
    Sorecers have 5, too.
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    Fvs have no shortage of sp, if you still need some grind for gloves of the glacier or such item with improved maximize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donfilibuster View Post
    Fvs have no shortage of sp, if you still need some grind for gloves of the glacier or such item with improved maximize.
    Sorcerers have no shortage of sp, too. Why can they have Improved Maximizing enhancements?

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    I'd like to see improved empower dropped and replaced with improved maximize (even if at the 2/4/6 discount instead of the arcane's 3/6/9). As things stand, nearly all clerics take empowered healing because it works on heal/mass heal, it's cheap (2 to 10 sp depending on equipment/investments) and they have limited sp pools, and it gets improved to 75% from radiant servant II. On the other hand, many non-evoker favored souls skip empower completely because they're too feat starved to fit it in, it doesn't effect heal/mas heal, it's less efficient than empower heal unless they improved empower III, it lacks umph of maximize, and it takes at least 2 tiers of the improved enhancements to be a little more efficient than maximize anyway.
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    I have empower, maximize and empower heal on all times with my fvs so it makes not difference to me. Hard quests require powerful quick heals IE maxed out Cure mass spells. you could roll with less on these but you'd burn through your sp faster due to casting it more to provide addequete healing. Can't tell you how many VODs I've solo healed because the inexperienced healer who was supposed to be support burnt his SP on a bunch of twitch heals (90ish a pop I call it). though VOD you could heal with mass heal for most the raid.

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    Sorcerers have no shortage of sp, too. Why can they have Improved Maximizing enhancements?
    Because they don't have access to Mass Cure Critical Wounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    Because they don't have access to Mass Cure Critical Wounds.
    Of course they don't. Their responsibility is damaging enemies, not healing allies. This is why they have various AOE attack spells instead of mass cure spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanYang View Post
    Of course they don't. Their responsibility is damaging enemies, not healing allies. This is why they have various AOE attack spells instead of mass cure spells.
    and that's why they need all of those metamagics but on the other hand favored souls can get away with empower and maximize and still heal & damage enemies

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartos View Post
    and that's why they need all of those metamagics but on the other hand favored souls can get away with empower and maximize and still heal & damage enemies
    Excuse me, what's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanYang View Post
    Excuse me, what's your point?
    that favored souls don't need 5 improved metamagic enhancements like sorcerers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartos View Post
    that favored souls don't need 5 improved metamagic enhancements like sorcerers
    I know. But at least favored souls need Improved Maximizing.

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