Grease is a bad joke :(

[Mr.Delightful]

But why, Grease is fun right? Wrong! Grease is negative haste, and as much as players love haste, they should hate grease.

Grease. Currently, the only thing its good at is griefing party/raid members. It is one of the few remaining "friendly-fire" spells left, but sense DDO doesn't really do friendly-fire (Firewall dance anyone?), it seems like Grease is a bit out of place in terms of how it functions in DDO.

Grease, as many are aware, forces everyone in the AOE to save or fall, really slowing down party movement, and disabling jumping in the process. Sense movement is extremely important in DDO, it makes this spell an awful choice to use, in every situation.

That being said, I want to like grease, I really do, but as it currently stands, I just can't. The fact that Grease does more damage to my party then most mob pulls prevents me from ever daring to lay down the oily black slide of doom.

Grease could be so useful, and it should be, as it is the first-tier spell-like ability for Conjuration speced archmages.

So, how do we turn nasty old Grease into the awesome CC that it could be?


1) Grease should only effect enemies. That way, it does more good than harm, which is unfortunately not the case now

2) Allow Grease to be effected by Heighten. If the "friendly-fire" version of Grease is replaced by the party-friendly version I suggest, there is no reason me to deny me my +9 DC Grease


Those 2 above suggestions would greatly improve Grease, and give players one less reason to rage-quit groups

What do people think? Good idea, bad idea? Reasonable? Anyone have an suggestions? Don't be shy...

[Frostwhisperer]

Grease is a party buff!

But I agree. It shouldn't be friendly fire. It's fun to do with friends, but t just screams grieving

[Trillea]

NTY, it's too useful to see who does NOT have FoM when I am on my cleric. If they start sliding, I cast FoM on them.

[transtemporal]

Grease has no current use in the game, except as a joke spell. In fact, it seems a little odd for turbine to put the work into creating a spell that has no use in the game, but I guess thats the case with a lot of DnD spells e.g. Death to Undeath, Symbol of Stunning etc etc.

If they were to change it to become enemy-only and heightenable, it would probably become more useful than web due to the way grease works. Both are reflex saves but you make a save for any movement in a grease, whereas web only has a save when you enter it, or re-enter it. Grease is also a larger AoE.

I disagree on the humour aspect though. An extended grease on the spike trap just above the ladder in von5, along with selectively dancing peeps as they cross the spikes can be hugely entertaining.

[RATRACE931]

Its functioned this way for 4 years and I think I can speak for all vets when i say "Grease stays!"

[Zorack00]

I think its actually quite a good one...

[Culver.Civello]

Grease is Grease. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Besides...even if it didn't effect your party members, it is practically useless...or at least there are better spells to memorize. No one would no longer buy my over abundance of grease clickies on the AH for a good laugh or ever bother with the spell if it didn't effect party members. xD

[Junk]

Yes it stays and when used in a roleplaying setting it is usefull, the whole group just needs to know what tatics you are using and not to enter the grease. There are other aspects to this game besides the end game and pug groups and a DPS build doesn't always have to run in and hack and slash let the rangers and casters have some fun also. Grease should be able to be heighten.

[silvertrit]

I dont know i think it works wonders against constructs..


AS for everyone elses




Bah hubug onto you....


I have ran grease with extend on a sorc painting en entire floor with grease...


Sorry that you cant aim

[jortann]

Grease is awesome.

Lighten up and laugh a little




sheeesh.......

[Diyon]

How else are we supposed to stop runaway kiters?

[Missing_Minds]

Obviously the op hasn't played with freezing rain much.

[Astraghal]

I had my most fulfilling grease experience today.

While waiting on the 6th person to get to entrance of Ritual Sacrifice, I laid down some grease at the quest entrance and dumped the 4 people standing there over the edge.

It was awesome.

[RATRACE931]

I had my most fulfilling grease experience today.

While waiting on the 6th person to get to entrance of Ritual Sacrifice, I laid down some grease at the quest entrance and dumped the 4 people standing there over the edge.

It was awesome.

I did that in an Epic OOB, played a lvl 20 i hadnt played in awhile and found my FOM boots and 6 clickies of grease... lets just say we all had to run back out with tears in our eyes.

[LordPiglet]

Grease is a party buff

[Hecate100]

Don't really mind grease except when it's cast by a hireling right where I happen to be fighting.

[Jakarr]

I did that in an Epic OOB, played a lvl 20 i hadnt played in awhile and found my FOM boots and 6 clickies of grease... lets just say we all had to run back out with tears in our eyes.

Dropping people off of Tempest Spine, into the traps in Von, traps in Rainbow in the dark etc etc and this is not for griefing. The most fun I'v had in DDO was playing with grease(at the right moments) with friends and guildies, its not about griefing its laughing at yourself.

Had a fun one where at the last portal in Shroud P1 I greased everyone and got about 5 melees to fall, we all had a great laugh about that.

/greasestays

[rexservorum]

I just wish the metal doggie pets wouldn't use it. Then I might actually take those enhancements.

[Jakarr]

I just wish the metal doggie pets wouldn't use it. Then I might actually take those enhancements.

I agree with ya there, I would take the the enhancements if it would upgrade to that Dog that would shoot soundburst from its mouth from the Cookies last year.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Its functioned this way for 4 years and I think I can speak for all vets when i say "Grease stays!"

Actually I would vote to have grease changed to allow it to be heightened.