Let's talk BOWS

[Zerenety]

Hey, hello and hi fellow forumers


I am an AA archer and have some question about BOWS. I will divide it all in 2 sections:

- Bows that i HAVE.
- General questions.
- Bows that are adviced

The purpose of this thread is to increase the knowledge around bows.
This thread will be updated.
Tips will allways be favored. More bows = More fun .. and more questions...


1.My bows:

- Silver Bow
- Icy burst, Holy burst, Force critical longbow of Pure Good
- Paralyzing of Pure Good
- Flaming burst longbow of Greater Aberration Bane
- Thundering longbow of Greater Elemental Bane
- Longbow of Destruction
- Weakening longbow of Enfeebling (WoE)
- Improved Cursespewing longbow of Deception
- Longbow of Disruption
- Banishing longbow
- Crippling longbow of Smiting


2.General questions:

- If we compare my Silver Longbow with the HB Longbow of PG, which would have the highest damage output?
- My STR is ATM 28 buffed. will reach 30+ with items. im only lvl 12 atm. Will Silver Bow come out on top with my HBofPG having icy burst?

3.BOW advice

- WoP
- Cursepew of Shattermantle
- Improved Destruction
- Greater dragon / construct bane + Anarchic
- [Lawful Beater] Ooze bane
- Holy of Greater Undead

I will fill up this list and put them in my inventory as i find them. If you have any, PM ME

[dkyle]

- If we compare my Silver Longbow with the HB Longbow of PG, which would have the highest damage output?

Depends on your strength, and your other damage bonuses. The higher the damage bonus, the more crits add to your DPS. Holy and PG add the same damage no matter what.

- Now does the WoP bow kill thrash mobs faster than any of the 2 above?
Ive also heard that when the mob reaches 0 CON, it gets stunned. Is this correct?

WoP might kill faster, but it depends on the mob's HP and CON scores. 0 CON does mean stunned. It used to mean dead, and when it did WoP was very good.

2.Bows that i want:

The number one bow you should want is the Lightning II crafted bow from the Shroud. All other DPS bows pale in comparison unless you have an outstanding bow for the specific type of enemy you're fighting, or fighting lightning-immune enemies (like the Demon Queen).

[Fetchi]

Hey, hello and hi fellow forumers


I am an AA archer and have some question about BOWS. I will divide it all in 3 sections:

- Bows that i HAVE.
- Bows that i want / should have. (If you have any laying around, PM me! So we can discuss. )
- General questions.

The purpose of this thread is to increase the knowledge around bows.
This thread will be updated.
Tips will allways be favored. More bows = More fun .. and more questions...


1.My bows:

- Silver Bow
- Icy burst, Holy burst, Force critical longbow of Pure Good
- Paralyzing of Pure Good
- Flaming burst longbow of Greater Aberration Bane
- Thundering longbow of Greater Elemental Bane
- Longbow of Destruction
- Weakening longbow of Enfeebling (WoE)
- Improved Cursespewing longbow of Deception
- Longbow of Disruption
- Banishing longbow
- Crippling longbow of Smiting

2.Bows that i want:

- Wounding longbow of Puncturing
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Undead Bane
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Construct Bane
- [Something] longbow of Improved Destruction

3.General questions:

- If we compare my Silver Longbow with the HB Longbow of PG, which would have the highest damage output?
- Now does the WoP bow kill thrash mobs faster than any of the 2 above?
Ive also heard that when the mob reaches 0 CON, it gets stunned. Is this correct?
- Does effects like Destruction and Improved Destruction stack?

- Since you are an AA, im assuming +5 arrows, making the Silver Longbow and HB Longbow of PG both +5. What I would take into consideration comparing these two bows is the crit range of the Silver Longbow. I'm not a numbers person, but I think it will pull ahead. Numbers people have compared the Silver Longbow to a lightning II and find that it is not far behind.

- Wounding of Puncturing used to be a great bow when trash mobs would die when they reached 0 con. Now that it is a short auto stun effect, it's still decent, especially with manyshot. I think you'll find once you reach the Vale and higher level content, the WoP is useless without manyshot active. At least this has been my experience.

- Destruction and Improved destruction will not stack. Just use the improved destruction and cursespewing for better results.

Hope this helps.

[Emili]

Hey, hello and hi fellow forumers


I am an AA archer and have some question about BOWS. I will divide it all in 3 sections:

- Bows that i HAVE.
- Bows that i want / should have. (If you have any laying around, PM me! So we can discuss. )
- General questions.

The purpose of this thread is to increase the knowledge around bows.
This thread will be updated.
Tips will allways be favored. More bows = More fun .. and more questions...


1.My bows:

- Silver Bow
- Icy burst, Holy burst, Force critical longbow of Pure Good
- Paralyzing of Pure Good
- Flaming burst longbow of Greater Aberration Bane
- Thundering longbow of Greater Elemental Bane
- Longbow of Destruction
- Weakening longbow of Enfeebling (WoE)
- Improved Cursespewing longbow of Deception
- Longbow of Disruption
- Banishing longbow
- Crippling longbow of Smiting

2.Bows that i want:

- Wounding longbow of Puncturing
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Undead Bane
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Construct Bane
- [Something] longbow of Improved Destruction

3.General questions:

- If we compare my Silver Longbow with the HB Longbow of PG, which would have the highest damage output?
- Now does the WoP bow kill thrash mobs faster than any of the 2 above?
Ive also heard that when the mob reaches 0 CON, it gets stunned. Is this correct?
- Does effects like Destruction and Improved Destruction stack?

I've three rangers... unfortunately none an AA yet.

By far the bow I use the most is a GS lightning II and soloing the WoP.

Each of these girls (btw only one is really archer spec'd the other two tempest) All in all the archer has about 25 bows and the other two least ten each... and to this day I wonder why?

• WoP (I typically icy burst these from the icy game kits)
• Greater x bane (come in handy on epic... I lucked into a nice holy of geob good for epic dq swap to damage)
• Improved destruction (be honest rarely used not so many epic mob I miss on so I figure same for most melee)
• Improved shattermantle (start off in DQ when a caster is about, allowing debuffs)
• Silver bow (I have so many of these darn things yet still find other bows more usefull)
• Banishing (past vale not such a biggie)
• Smitting (past vale not such a biggie)
• Paralyzing (again past vale not important but a CC bow in respects of soloing is a good idea)
• Improved curse spewing (for sake of the above banisher/smitting aat times but still nitch)

House D/Silver flame favor <- this is important to many archers although an AA make thier own arrows so much be pickier bout bows... my quivers are filled with silver, cold iron and +3 sturdy arrows. An AA will probably get more use from the silver bow due it's crit range...

Funny thing is I still keep such things as twisted livewood and other named bows in inventory hopping one day epic would do something for them.

[SiliconShadow]

1.Your bows:

- Silver Bow
- Icy burst, Holy burst, Force critical longbow of Pure Good
- Paralyzing of Pure Good
- Flaming burst longbow of Greater Aberration Bane
- Thundering longbow of Greater Elemental Bane
- Longbow of Destruction
- Weakening longbow of Enfeebling (WoE)
- Improved Cursespewing longbow of Deception
- Longbow of Disruption
- Banishing longbow
- Crippling longbow of Smiting

2.Bows that you want:

- Wounding longbow of Puncturing
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Undead Bane
- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Construct Bane
- [Something] longbow of Improved Destruction

Ok above is what you said you had and what you wantm you have some nice bows that is for sure but there are some you REALLY do actually want laying around that you don't mention.

Auto critical bow: Holyburst/seeker 8/10 of maiming with iceburst and force critical on it, if you WoP something dry or are in epics and things get stunned then this bow is your god of damage.

Improoved cursepweing of shattermantle - This bow when in a party with 2 or more casters will make you a very popular bunny, coupled with terror arrows it can mean a massive penalty to thier saves and they tend to hide in corners until fingered, be careful with terror arrows though don't get on the wrong side of the mellee!

Metaline/Holy(burst) of improved destruction, make sure you can bypass enough DR to land the destruction with this bow, also use with sure shot to make sure it lands.

WoP - Icey burst and force critical is a must addition to this bow, when it auto crits you will be pumping out that little extra on really big mobs the auto crit bow will be boosted by the lead of the iceyburst + force critical upgrades.

Earth grab bow - Normal bog standard trash mobs will be eaten up by this it works on 90% of the trash in the game and is a good all rounder the dense stone elemental also helps alot earth grabbing everything he can in sight - Good time for the auto crit bow eh ;]

Anarchic of g.dragon/cosntruct bane - the bigger more annoying of these will be lawful, and for the ones that aren't then the metaline destruction or the smiting bow will be just your ticket, as for dragons it all rocks.

WoE - The casters nightmare, it only takes a single crit and couple more hits to stun almost any caster then whip out that auto crit!

True chaos of Ooze bane - After much messing around finding a bow that works on these neutral btards was a pane but this is great, cubes oozes anything it will rip them apart, many shot up slaying arrow and this baby you can kill faster than a wizard can cast finger of death, trust me I annoy many casters with the kill speed of this combination.

Holy burst - g.lawful + chaotic outsider bane - The 2 outsider bane bows you should have until you have your high end triple pos and radiance 2 bows, the triple pos will outdo the damage on the DQ of this GB bow but really this baby shreds them, much nicer than almost anything else in amarath and in DQ.

Holy burst of greater undead bane - Force dmg this baby too hold it hug it tight and rip the abbot and sorjek apart with it, also good in TOR for the giant skeles and in the sub, however vs other mundane supernatral beings the earth grab bow is a little tidier and safer, but this does pump out more damage especially when plinking away with some shards of light if you have some.

Silver longbow - This can be dropped when you have your other bows made, it is a lovelly bow but sadly it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore.

Sexiest bow - Unwavering ardency *droool*



About elements, if you are stuck with an element that doesn't work on a creature and holy also doesn't then grab acid on it, also upgrade with icey burst and force dmg on everything (Force critical on your earthgrab, auto crit bow, WoP and WoE)

For mellee weapons also carry 2 rapiers 1 wounding of 8% tendon slice and 2 vorpals, if it can be wounding use the wounding its often safer.

Remember a good combination of bow and sword will make you a God to those around you, some people look down on AA others play with ones who know what they are doing and are jealous.

Also remember update 8 - The stone prison bow, will it be good? Lets find out.

Good luck.

[Zerenety]

Do anyone have the Specs of this GS lit II bow? I would rly like to see them.

Also in the U8, th windhowler bracers were released... will these be worth it?

[Hyrvana]

- Since you are an AA, im assuming +5 arrows, making the Silver Longbow and HB Longbow of PG both +5. What I would take into consideration comparing these two bows is the crit range of the Silver Longbow. I'm not a numbers person, but I think it will pull ahead. Numbers people have compared the Silver Longbow to a lightning II and find that it is not far behind.

Having say a +2 bow and +5 arrows does not change the damage output of the bow to +5, it just means you have +5 to your attack bonus instead of +2 to attack.

I have both the GS Lightning II bow and silver bow and the silver bow doesn't come close to the dps i chuck out with the GS bow.

[Zerenety]

Okay Ive gotten rly lucky, and recieved GREAt advice. thanks guys ^^. keep it comming

[Emili]

Do anyone have the Specs of this GS lit II bow? I would rly like to see them.

Also in the U8, th windhowler bracers were released... will these be worth it?

When I get home will post a pic of one for you if someone has not already. GS lit II however is probably the best round DPS weapon out of shroud... Min II which is a general devil beater pales to such come epics and real forte be elite devil boss raids... whereas the Lit II just mops up so many places it's beyond silly... the expense however is in large scales as a shroud farm.

The Abbot bow (Unwavering ardency) above is very nice also... the highest front damage dice of bows in game but very hard to come by.

Had to shrink it a little ... as usual though dual tier GS never fits om screen...

[Zerenety]

Auto critical bow: Holyburst/seeker 8/10 of maiming with iceburst and force critical on it, if you WoP something dry or are in epics and things get stunned then this bow is your god of damage.

Would seeker fit in when i looted this AWSUM bloodstone in my 5th sands run? ^^

[drac317]

- Destruction and Improved destruction will not stack.

since when, they used to.

[Varr]

There are 4 bows to strive for today....

Silver bow for leveling
WoP with Icey burst
Lighting 2
Epic thornlord.

If you bump into a holyburst of greater evil outsider bane, might as well toat it around to.

Just my opinion.

[dkyle]

Do anyone have the Specs of this GS lit II bow? I would rly like to see them.

There are a few ways you can spec a GS Lit II bow, but the best (IMHO) is:

1d10/20x3 (instead of 1d8/20x3 on normal bows)
Holy
Shocking Burst
Shocking Blast (2d10 on crits, 4d6 on 20s)
Lightning Strike (~600 electricity damage on ~2% of hits)

To craft it follow this recipe, using these instructions. You'll probably need to complete Shroud about 16 times to make it.

Also in the U8, th windhowler bracers were released... will these be worth it?

What other bracers are you going to wear? Only alternatives I can think of are the Claw set (assuming it works with Ranged), and these bracers only take up one slot, instead of two for that set.

[cpito]

Generally good advice but I would like to correct one thing:

[COLOR=White] 2.Bows that you want:

- [Elemental] longbow of Greater Construct Bane

Many constructs are healed by elemental damage. Instead you want alignment damage... pure good, anarchic, true chaos etc.

[Yaga_Nub]

Having say a +2 bow and +5 arrows does not change the damage output of the bow to +5, it just means you have +5 to your attack bonus instead of +2 to attack.

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It changes the attack and damage to +5. You use whatever is highest between the two.

[Glenalth]

For straight damage per bow, plug in your build information and bows here...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=247425

Experiment with various combinations of favored enemy and such so you can see what is the proper bow in each situation.

[SiliconShadow]

Generally good advice but I would like to correct one thing:

Many constructs are healed by elemental damage. Instead you want alignment damage... pure good, anarchic, true chaos etc.

To make it clear I suggested anarchic/holy/true chaos that link was from his own wants/needs collections