Quote Originally Posted by Albrecht555 View Post
I know what his intentions are... My reasoning is this: how much cha can you dump? like start with 14cha at best? that nets you +2umd and you need to waste a feat on force of P. Greensteel umd item any1 can use as it adds to all cha based skills not cha itself.

Going this route will also mean you have to find a slot to equip a + cha item which is a huge flaw unless you have lots of epics and even then there are better stuff to pick. wis item every1 uses, so using wis instead of cha nets you AC, SP, saves (without wasting feat) and the need of only using 1 slot for wis item.

Instead of wasting a feat on force of p for +2 umd at best (14 starting cha) skill focus umd is +3, hence better...
also cant you get wis on a tod set that is more useful for a ranger tempest melee? and if you take monk cant you get a bonus feat out of that?