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    At lower levels, you can easily get by just by not getting hit (fairly simple to get an AC that matters), and your concentration checks when you do get hit.

    But later on, when you're getting whalloped for 80 points, your Concentration will simply fail far too often. You NEVER want a Heal to fail a concentration check, because that almost always means someone dies as a result. Frequently that someone is you.

    Plus, if you haven't experienced the uh...joy...of an un-Quickened Mass Heal, well, try it and see how quickly you wish you had Quicken.

    Lastly, when jump-casting, it's nice to be able to get the entire spell off while in mid-air. Easy with Quicken, probably not (for most spells) at regular speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    At lower levels, you can easily get by just by not getting hit (fairly simple to get an AC that matters), and your concentration checks when you do get hit.

    But later on, when you're getting whalloped for 80 points, your Concentration will simply fail far too often. You NEVER want a Heal to fail a concentration check, because that almost always means someone dies as a result. Frequently that someone is you.

    Plus, if you haven't experienced the uh...joy...of an un-Quickened Mass Heal, well, try it and see how quickly you wish you had Quicken.

    Lastly, when jump-casting, it's nice to be able to get the entire spell off while in mid-air. Easy with Quicken, probably not (for most spells) at regular speed.
    Good answer. Now i see. Following your thought, when i get the feat and change
    for what?

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    Generally want to get it in the 9-15 range. Before that you don't really need it; after that you'll be long wishing you already had it.
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    I generally aim for 12 of pure-ish casters, later on something like a Bard.

    If I'm on a cleric/FVS 12 is when I'm hitting VON, and mass/quicken is kinda useful there. ADQ/DQ at 14 ... and that's not XP and fun I tend to miss.
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    Guys. Which spells Will gonna really help me with this build?

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    Guys. Which spells Will gonna really help me with this build?

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    Default as long as we are necro-ing

    Just how important is UMD on this build? I think there are many ways to get by without it, as long as no gear requires a UMD check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post

    Lastly, when jump-casting, it's nice to be able to get the entire spell off while in mid-air. Easy with Quicken, probably not (for most spells) at regular speed.
    What is the point/advantage of jump casting? I assume it is just casting while jumping but why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimknot View Post
    What is the point/advantage of jump casting? I assume it is just casting while jumping but why?
    You move faster that way?

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    What is the point/advantage of jump casting? I assume it is just casting while jumping but why?
    Cast while running = run very slowly during casting.

    Cast while jumping = move full speed in mid-air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    In no particular order:

    1) Too much investment in lockpicking. Half that at most.
    2) Need more disable. Find Traps will give a +8 to your search, but it won't boost disarming.
    3) Dump weapon finesse. Pointless. Get Quicken instead.
    I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I've been inactive for 3 years.

    Why is weapon finesse pointless?
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    Finesse only increases to-hit, not damage.

    Hitting is reaaaaaaaaaaaaally easy.

    You're essentially spending a feat for no benefit.
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    Any suggestions on what feat to drop to take half-elf race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachna_gislin View Post
    Any suggestions on what feat to drop to take half-elf race?
    Id take roque for damage, or Monk(hear me out).

    monk gets 20% from the monk list and 20% from human, getting more then human itself with this split.
    Get jidz bracers, fire stance, get some other items and become a regenerator god with your aura alone.

    think its 400%+ with all items and ship buff.

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    Are these builds viable now with all the changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armyof9 View Post
    Are these builds viable now with all the changes?
    It's from 2010...current enhancement system didn't exist then, Epic Destinies didn't exist then, current random/cannith loot didn't exist then. You could do something somewhat similar, but it would require massive over-hauling first; i.e., this might be a viable idea for a build, but it's not viable build as written. Same for pretty much any 2010-era build.
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    Seems like a neat build . Has anyone ever did a update to this build?

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