Fort is the new dump stat!

[Saiyren]

I'm not sure how casters could not possibly realize the benefit of having HF.... ? I play on every server, though my sorc is on Ghandalla, she has the HF necklace item you get from the mines (turned in 12 coals(?) to get the HF necklace). Had it on her since she was first able to wear it and will never replace that neck item unless I find a robe of SR and HF (miracles can happen).
Didn't realize CON was the dump stat since I put everything I can possible into CHA? I think my CON is a 12 at best. So my sorc has approx 2700+ sp (forgot exact amount) at level 15 (32 CHA). Besides aren't casters supposed to try to keep in the middle to back area away from melee combat and getting hit by anything? If a caster is in melee I usually mentally bet their death in a few seconds. Robes vs Full Plate/Half Plate or anything armor, my bet is robe = fail.

So any advice/opinion on what I've done so far is appreciative.

[ToKu]

Fort and con are wasted stats because I never plan on being hit.

[Thelmallen]

One rogue in the Shroud complained to a friend's Warchanter when Inspire Recklessness was cast since he now had -10% fort. He seriously didn't see a problem with having 0%, but -10% was an abomination.

Heh. I wish I had been there for that conversation.

[Quikster]

Heh. I wish I had been there for that conversation.

I thought it was you cept he said rogue

[Illiain]

Sad thing is I've run Hound, ToD, Shroud with my haggle item on and miraculously stayed alive!

Heavy Fort is clearly overrated!

I have never gotten bashed around by ogres in Sleeping Dust, only to remember I use a helm of waterbreathing.

Never... much...

[d4rkstars]

isnt it fun when someone with so lacking game knowledge comes here to the forum blame a wipe on other players

yes as many poeple said, anyone dying in p4 while in range has been killed by a spell, then fortification doesnt matter

the caster was standing near the healer probably to get a heal, or to use the cleric aura to self heal because pathetic melees would not let a second for the cleric to heal the injured arcane

very few of caster (exept evasion splash) can take 2 meteors in a raw, it happens

learn the game before complaining about others (and then you will understand it is pointless to do it anyway)

and yea MyDDO is not reliable information for anything you may want to check

[Thelmallen]

I thought it was you cept he said rogue

You're a big mean meanie head.

[rexservorum]

Since this is a Sarlona thread...

If you are at least level 11 and have been having trouble getting your hands on an item with Heavy Fortification, send a tell or an in-game letter to my main (name in sig). I will happily take you on a few rare runs in the Orchard and assign you any tapestry shreds that appear in chests for me. May not get it done in one session, but at least you will know your way around Orchard rares and will have made significant progress toward your Minos Legens helm.

You must have access to Necropolis pt. 4 (own the pack or be VIP) to take advantage of this offer. Also, please only contact me if you have genuine need. I don't really want to spend hours in the Orchard just to give away my shreds to someone who just wants to sell them.

[AZgreentea]

Myddo's still broken so might as well be another reason. (At least for me and several others it's broken. My lvl16 bard's still lvl 5 there)

Well, if you look at the bottom of the character, you can see if it was updated recently. for example, my main is broken:

Data Last Updated: 08/31/2010 7:29 am

[KillEveryone]

isnt it fun when someone with so lacking game knowledge comes here to the forum blame a wipe on other players

yes as many poeple said, anyone dying in p4 while in range has been killed by a spell, then fortification doesnt matter

the caster was standing near the healer probably to get a heal, or to use the cleric aura to self heal because pathetic melees would not let a second for the cleric to heal the injured arcane

very few of caster (exept evasion splash) can take 2 meteors in a raw, it happens

learn the game before complaining about others (and then you will understand it is pointless to do it anyway)

and yea MyDDO is not reliable information for anything you may want to check

I've been told when I was on my caster I need to keep myself up. Heals are on the melee. I have no problem with this. The melee are going to be DPSing Arrytrekos down anyway and it isn't like you are going to get the bonus from not dying anyway.

The caster keeps running around in a circle and can suck a pot, UMD a heal, or if WF cast repair/reconstruct, in every case the arcane should take care of themsleves. They aren't going to take the brunt of the damage. They are also supposed to stay way from the healer so that the healer doesn't take any damage from something aimed at the arcane.

[ddoer]

Unless your arcanes and healer were within shadowhump range of Arraetrekos, they could only have been taken out my a meteor swarm or delayed blast fireball. Neither of which are affected by heavy fort.

Your problem was not lack of fortification, it was lack of resist fire, and lack of melees smart enough to block the path from harry to the healers. ...

i'm about to say that. spell dmg got nth to do with fort

.... one was and elf sorc and the other a WF wiz, were one shotted by Harry at the start of part 4. Unfortunately, they were both standing next to one of the healers and he was taken out too...

The sorc had 284hp and 0% fort. The Wiz had 364hp and 25% fort.

Elf is not the best race for Sorc. With under 300hp, I think he should keep cold shield always on.

For the wiz, if he is not a Pale Master, 25% fort is not acceptable. I don't blame the sorc, but the WF wiz has something wrong. He probably didn't take insightful reflex that is one of the best feat a wiz could get. (you could verify it simply by check his reflect save)

If on normal, I highly doubt Harry's DBF or Meteor would do 364+ dmg in one hit. He probably didn't top his HP after getting hit, or he doesn't have quicken.

[chrisgina39]

i no a guy with 6 con 0 fort and 16(with tome and item) str on a melee lol and no fail intimidate

[Ilindith]

Is my fort big enough?

[urusaikuneyaro]

I've encountered many casters without fortification lately. Some of 'em say they don't need it because of the fort that pale master grants.

[ToKu]

I've encountered many casters without fortification lately. Some of 'em say they don't need it because of the fort that pale master grants.

Because casters have better things they can wear in thier head slots. ;P

I was tempted to try a build not dependant on fort... then I realized how hard it was to put something useful without fort in that slot. :P