Yet another Light build TR question

[dpadan17]

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 299 (will be almost 490 with gear and ship buffs)
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 19
Will: 20

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats End Stats (with ship buffs)
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 19 28
Dexterity 16 22 34
Constitution 13 15 24
Intelligence 8 10 12
Wisdom 17 24 32
Charisma 8 10 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15 (Yes, i actually have it)

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 7 30
Bluff -1 0
Concentration 5 41
Diplomacy -1 0
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 0
Heal 3 7
Hide 3 6
Intimidate -1 2
Jump 6 28
Listen 3 7
Move Silently 3 6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 0
Spot 6 17
Swim 2 4
Tumble 4 29
Use Magic Device n/a n/a


Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I

Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Student of the Sword
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I

Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Lifting the Veil
Enhancement: The Receptive Earth
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II

Level 5 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I

Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

Level 8 (Monk)
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Wind

Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

Level 10 (Monk)
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III

Level 11 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix

Level 13 (Monk)
Enhancement: Master of Thunder

Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II

Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I

Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II

Level 17 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II

Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms

Level 19 (Monk)
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Adept of Rain

Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Improved Jump I


Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I

Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

Level 8 (Monk)
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Wind

Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

Level 10 (Monk)
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III

Level 11 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix

Level 13 (Monk)
Enhancement: Master of Thunder

Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II

Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I

Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II

Level 17 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II

Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms

Level 19 (Monk)
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Adept of Rain

Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Improved Jump I

Gear used

Helmet- Epic helm of Red Dragon (with toughness)- WTT out for Epic Helm of Mroronon
Eyes- Tharnes Goggles
Neck- Shintao Cord
Trinket- Bloodstone
Cloak- MinII
Belt- Knost Belt- Want to trade it out for Epic Belt of Mroronon (with GFL)
Rings- Kyosho's (with Holy burst) and Verik's (with shocking burst)
Gloves- Spectral Gloves
Boots- Striders 30%- Or other epic boots to be had
Armor- DT with +5 resist, Wave Guard, and +4 insight bonus AC

or this.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 297 (will be almost 470ish with gear and ship buffs)
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 21
Will: 21

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats End stats with ship buffs
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 13 19 28
Dexterity 18 24 36
Constitution 14 16 24
Intelligence 8 10 12
Wisdom 16 24 30
Charisma 8 10 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 12
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 7 25
Bluff -1 2
Concentration 6 43
Diplomacy -1 0
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 0
Heal 3 7
Hide 4 11
Intimidate -1 2
Jump 5 28
Listen 3 9
Move Silently 4 9
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 0
Spot 3 7
Swim 1 4
Tumble 5 28
Use Magic Device n/a n/a



Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I

Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I

Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Student of the Sword
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I

Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Lifting the Veil
Enhancement: The Receptive Earth

Level 5 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
\cf3 Enhancement: Restoring the Balance

Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I

Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

Level 8 (Monk)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Wind

Level 10 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III

Level 11 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix

Level 13 (Monk)
Enhancement: Master of Thunder

Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III

Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II

Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Adept of Rain

Level 17 (Monk)
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II

Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms

Level 19 (Monk)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV

Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike


The difference is the extra wiz for the dc's in my thoughts. Both builds should have good AC and survivability. Would like to try out the Shintao III stuff. I am halfling now, and want to know if the human for the extra DC point is actually worth it? or should I stick to the Halfling and take the 40 DC (instead of 41 DC from human)

[AzraelDB]

A few thoughts:

Why did you go for RotP? 6AP for Monk Improved Recovery III which qualifies you for Shintao II and you could use the leftover AP from not taking the RotP Prereqs to get Master Stances (as a thought). Also, all of the stat effects your prereq strikes can clear can be done with (low cost) pots. This would also free up Ki for those oh-so-yummy Shintao Strikes.

Furthermore, a little bit of tweaking (swap one point of Wis for Con) at character creation would net you Earth Strike III (from Master Earth Stance) to help with DPS issues you may encounter.

On your DT, you might want to consider swapping Wave Guard for Salt (since salt is irresistable).

You are also missing bracers. Pick up a Henshin Necklace you can use to swap out on the fly for when you want to regen more ki (faster to swap than switching stances constantly). Madstone Boots would be sweet as a swap/perma item. Or maybe a sweet pair of (Epic) Kundarak Delving Boots.