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  1. 12-14-2010, 03:18 PM #1
    Jerevon
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    Default Good FPS, but mouse look is very choppy

    Hello, after the new mod went live, I've been experiencing some bad mouse look graphics quality, the kind that is "hard to look at". This is killing my eyeballs. If I run in a straight line and don't move left or right or use the mouse at all, it looks good. I can run around the Marketplace at about 80-90 FPS

    What I've done is uninstall/reinstall the display drivers via Device Manager, evga nvidia 260.99 and played around with Logitech SetPoint to help smooth out the mouse look, but it's a no go. Any help is appreciated, ty in advance.

    Dxdiag info:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/14/2010, 13:04:41
       Machine name: 
       Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
       Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
       System Manufacturer: OEM
       System Model: OEM
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 329MB used, 3608MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8800 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0611&SUBSYS_C8013842&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0012.6099 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 10/16/2010 11:55:00, 6359552 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 10/16/2010 11:55:00, 9623680 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4551-11CF-214C-0DE803C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0611
        SubSys ID: 0xC8013842
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D 
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                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
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                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_15BD3112&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5433 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 6/14/2007 16:41:00, 4429312 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5433 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 6/14/2007 16:41:00, 4429312 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

            Description: Realtek HD Digital input
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5433 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 6/14/2007 16:41:00, 4429312 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G15 Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC222
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2939
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 11:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 2/28/2006 05:00:00, 4736 bytes
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+-+ Logitech USB G3 (MX518) Optical Mouse
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC01E
| | Location: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
| | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_046d&pid_c01e
| | Lower Filters: LUsbFilt
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/13/2008 11:45:28, 10368 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/13/2008 11:45:26, 36864 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 4/13/2008 11:45:22, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 4/13/2008 17:11:54, 20992 bytes
| | Driver: LUsbFilt.sys, 6/17/2009 09:56:32, 28560 bytes
| | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 6/22/2007 10:34:02, 1419232 bytes
| | 
| +-+ Logitech HID-compliant G3/MX518 Optical Mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC01E
| | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c01e
| | | Upper Filters: LMouFilt
| | | Lower Filters: LHidFilt
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 12:48:00, 12160 bytes
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 11:39:48, 23040 bytes
| | | Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 6/17/2009 09:56:06, 35472 bytes
| | | Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 6/17/2009 09:56:16, 37392 bytes
| | | Driver: KHALMNPR.Exe, 6/17/2009 09:55:10, 55824 bytes
| | | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 6/22/2007 10:34:02, 1419232 bytes
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  2. 12-14-2010, 03:41 PM #2
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    Is there a FPS impact using mouselook Jerevon?

    I would suggest updating to setpoint 6.20.24:
    http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/428/42...ds&bit=&osid=1

    And if that doesn't fix the issue try removing the logitch software completely to see if that makes any difference.

    What is your mouselook smoothing set to in DDO's options?

    What is the sensitivity set to in DDO's options?

    Are you using the game detection feature?
    http://logitech-en-emea.custhelp.com.../a_id/2209/kw/

    Logitech also have some suggestions for you to look into:

    http://logitech-en-emea.custhelp.com...5/cl/gb,en/kw/
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  3. 12-14-2010, 04:34 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitey View Post
    Is there a FPS impact using mouselook Jerevon?

    I would suggest updating to setpoint 6.20.24:
    http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/428/42...ds&bit=&osid=1

    And if that doesn't fix the issue try removing the logitch software completely to see if that makes any difference.

    What is your mouselook smoothing set to in DDO's options?

    What is the sensitivity set to in DDO's options?

    Are you using the game detection feature?
    http://logitech-en-emea.custhelp.com.../a_id/2209/kw/

    Logitech also have some suggestions for you to look into:

    http://logitech-en-emea.custhelp.com...5/cl/gb,en/kw/
    I updated SetPoint to the latest version, but it didn't really help.

    -There is no FPS impact when using mouse look.
    -Mouse smoothing in game is 1.00
    -Mouse sensetivity in game is 0.35 dropping down to a value less than 0.20 helps out too, but I don't really want to get too low.
    -I'm using TurbineInvoker.exe for the game detect

    What helped out a little bit was Mouse Game Settings tab, Game Mode Settings, uncheck "Keep mouse acceleration", "Keep mouse speed". Maybe there's a conflict with in game mouse settings and Logitech software settings. Uninstalling SetPoint, I did not do yet.

    ty for reply.
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  4. 12-15-2010, 02:51 AM #4
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    With no performance hit this will be software settings related so it could be a conflict with the setpoint software.

    My settings in userpreferences.ini are:

    TurnKeySpeed=150.00
    InvertMouseLookYAxis=False
    MouseLookSensitivity=0.25
    PitchKeySpeed=60.00
    MouseLookSmoothingAmount=0.00

    But sesnsitivity and smoothing are an individual taste.
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