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    Community Member Gorbadoc's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eistander View Post
    New feat for Rangers - Overdraw
    Writing a check for more money than you have in your account? That sounds more like a rogue ability...

    Just like the title says, I think it's about time that ranged characters (bow users, but something similar can be worked out for others, I am sure) get something like Power Attack, but in turn impacts bow use.
    Oohhhh.

    Quote Originally Posted by sirdanile View Post
    I am for this change, although It would probably come along with an entire revision of ranged combat.
    I'm trying to think of a downside to this.

    Nothing springs to mind.

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    I think the feat that lets you use the str bonus added to the ranged damage is that kind of 'overdraw'. Essentially you use your strength to pull the string further away. Note that the feat don't work with crossbows because you can't 'pull' the string.

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    The feat already in-game, Bow Strength, both is and is not what the OP is searching for to give archers the tiniest lift in terms of DPS. Rangers get it for free at 1st level, and if you want to get it you have to invest in at least 2 ranged feats, probably 3. But it's funny to see that one of the possible requirements for getting the feat actually is Power Attack. In essence, it is an improved version of a ranged PA, given that it gives the archer a damage add equal to their Str to all bow shots.

    But, I think that what the OP is trying to address is the discrepancy between archery DPS in general that are between Manyshot cool-downs and virtually any tuned melee character. While a RoF increase will probably still be something they might add in the future to boost ranged/archery damage, just about any slight bump would be quite appreciated by much of the archer community.
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    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=276421

    Alabore also made a nice description of overdraw there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleCircle View Post
    Dude! Don't get your panties in a twist. I was explaining the reasoning and nuances of overdraw and where the op is getting his idea.
    Sheesh
    no im fine with explaining that it exists :P, its just that it irritated me that some other people were arguing the finer points of archery and the design of modern bows

    also, after looking into it, i think adding a PA type feat for rangers would be nice in game, because it would cause multi-shot to be a short term nuking mechanism, while having ranged damage matter more in quests, though still not nearly as much as melee damage.
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    I like the idea of giving archers an increase to DPS, outside of Manyshot. Strength requirement, maybey BAB requirement, and Bow Strength requirement, maybe another ranged oriented feat requirement. I really like the drawback of "chance to do durrability damage to weapon on attack" and "cannot use the weapon if it's worn".

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    IMO though, they should create a "Improved Manyshot" feat that fires less arrows per shot but is passive not active. Maybe the arrows per shot increases with BAB just like Manyshot, but inlesser numbers and greater intervals. Not a free feat to Rangers, and have a requirement of: Manyshot, BAB#, DEX#, ECT...

    But I deffenatly like the idea of a Power Attack feat oriented for ranged combat.

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