warning about the worst glitch in DDO history

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I guess now would be the time to freak you all out!

I have not tested this, but I have been told by more than one of the more well known players that if you leave 1 item in the chest every time, you will NEVER ransack.

Again, not tested by me, but I'm sure if that was true we would all be "using" this approach. Anyone wanna comment on that?

Considered the "loot all" button is new, we often used to leave stuff we didn't want behind in chests because it wasn't worth clicking on it. So, unless that bug is new, its urban legand.

Easy enough to find out for sure though, next time I'm bored I'll try

[shadowsaun]

No, it's based on the loot being generated for you when the list opens.

You can take absolutely nothing from the chest and still get ransacked after multiple visits.

are you sure your sure? Have you tested?

Does everyone agree: "it's based on the loot being generated for you when the list opens"

I mostly believe you Glenalth because I have never tried the method I explained (seemed like a myth to me).

[muffinlad]

I always considered lag to be the worst glitch ever.

This...exactly.

muffinlaggy.

[shadowsaun]

Considered the "loot all" button is new, we often used to leave stuff we didn't want behind in chests because it wasn't worth clicking on it. So, unless that bug is new, its urban legand.

Easy enough to find out for sure though, next time I'm bored I'll try

PLEASE I have wanted to know for so long (I need my loot so I take it ALLL muahahaha)

+1 for being helpful

[Glenalth]

are you sure your sure? Have you tested?

Does everyone agree: "it's based on the loot being generated for you when the list opens"

I mostly believe you Glenalth because I have never tried the method I explained (seemed like a myth to me).

This is how it was explained by one of the developers in the past. They also covered how your loot was not affected by others loot gems and/or character level and other long standing myths such as using Diplomacy on a chest.

Edit: I haven't specifically tested it, but there were many loot runs where I took nothing but gold from a chest due to full inventory and being multiple zones away from a vendor where I still got ransacked.

[Funny_looking_mole]

are you sure your sure? Have you tested?

Does everyone agree: "it's based on the loot being generated for you when the list opens"

I mostly believe you Glenalth because I have never tried the method I explained (seemed like a myth to me).

I can't say if taking NOTHING from the chest doesn't count, but I can tell you that if you leave a single item in the chest it will ransack eventually. Tested with STK final chest for Featherfall ring.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

No one said it wasn't a problem. We just said you were over the top about it being the most serious problem ever. You are also the only one who had it happen, so unless its replicated/confirmed by someone else there is also the chance of user error or deception being involved.

And if you can't handle honest feedback, stop replying.

You forgot to add that he also asked people to come up with worse glitches, then went over-the-top defensive when he realized that he WAS wrong, and is now trying to deflect so that people don't realize that he overreacted in the first place.

OP, first off, this is NOT the first time someone has lost something important that they pulled from a chest, and I would agree with Lorien that until it's replicated, all we know is that you say that you lost a seal in ADQ and cannot prove how or why. Pure hearsay and conjecture.

Oh, and I would add that the bug we had 4 years ago where if you happened to DC while logging in, your character would be lost completely, is MUCH worse...I *THINK* they were all able to be restored, but imagine that...your uber toon with all his Greensteel, Epic SS rings, shards, seals, and whatever else is more important than everyone else's characters, all LOST, simply because your ISP took a nose dive right as you were logging in. I'd say that is definitely worse.

I feel for you if what you say happened actually happened, but put in a ticket and bug report it, post about what you found, and then move on...all the negativity and namecalling will do nothing for you but get you more red bars, more fans, and possibly even a ban...

[xanvar]

Thanks for the entertainment in this thread. I know the OP really and truely believed this was the worst bug in DDO history, he just was lacking in information. At some point though when faced with the evidence it is best to back down and admit your claim was wrong.

[cpito]

Oh, and I would add that the bug we had 4 years ago where if you happened to DC while logging in, your character would be lost completely, is MUCH worse

Most of us would think so but the OP has already made his rather convoluted opinion on that matter clear:

that's worse than a glitch that deletes your entire character because that seal is worth more than most people's entire characters.

But WE'RE the elitist trolls... riiiight

[rest]

This thread seems strangely less than it used to be... I wonder how that happens?

[Glenalth]

I still think it's sitting in his ingredients bag.

[SteeK]

~snip~ Of all my considerable years reading and participating in forums I've learned that the impression you give people 'here' probably mimics very closely how you are for real. It has to do with the anonymity. If anything most people are probably less strident in real life as there might be a more severe consequence to being abrasive in real life compared to neg reps here.

I'm pretty sure the internet gives people more false courage than alcohol.
Where does all this rage come from?
Back in the day, you got drunk, vented it at the wrong person and then spent weeks feeling morose and delicate from all the new bruises you'd incurred.

[Sweetpea]

lol some day I'm going to do a scientific study that compares post count to the respectfulness and decency of a reply :P for example, look one reply above me. See, that's like a normal human right there. 1000 posts and you've clearly completely lost it lol. Must by the non-orien version of OR members where you run raids obsessively too many times, have everything, so you resort to hating on other people about how much better you are than them lol.

Btw we really don't know all that much about this glitch. Apparently I discovered it just now cuz nobody said "yeah, that happened to me" so for all we know, you could be in a party of 6 people and if you click off it and back on it, it clears the entire chest for everyone! Maybe it deletes seals that were already looted. Who knows how bad this is!

"But desolator, you're trying to make it sound worse to prove all the haters that are whining wrong"

Yes lol. Because it takes longer to get a specific shard and/or seal from the sands than anything that's been mentioned above except I guess entire accounts that already have seals and shards or epic items. And are you sure that the "glitch" with mailing stuff not getting there isn't that infamous "you spelled the username wrong" glitch :P or that horrid "you didn't check under unconfirmed and it timed out" glitch lol. JK, I'm sure Turbine screwed something up. But someone braver than I should go click on an epic chest 8 times and see if it gives a ransack warning because maybe just now they screwed that up and that's why it's happening.

ok you really need to take a chill pill... the other glitches listed far out weigh this one is how much they affect the player base... but just to make you feel better consider this scenario:

you have the shard, scroll and item and you have spent hours trying to get a group together to run the quest. finally you get there. get it completed and there in the chest is the seal you need to complete you item. its right there. finally after a month of running this quest on every lvl 20 you have daily (that's 10 runs a day) you get the seal and then for some reason you cant click the loot all button cos your inventory is open so you click the inventory closed accidentally missing the little x in you haste and have to click it again. you've now got your inventory closed but you've clicked off the chest.... you open it again and while it loads the loot table again you lag... totally. you frantically load back into the game log your char in and you are standing OUTSIDE the quest... you turn around look at the door to the quest and swear, repeatedly. oh well its gone now... back to the grind... (this happened to my guild leader and very good mate)

that is worse then you not paying attention to a very obvious thing. ONCE A CHEST IS OPEN ONLY THE PPL IN THE QUEST AT THE TIME GET THE LOOT YOU NOOB!

that being said the whole items disappearing cos of the ransacked thing has happened, to at least 3 ppl i know so dont feel too special

[Faent]

Yup. There is a recent thread that includes a SS of GM comments that make it pretty clear they know about a bug that can delete your main hand weapon in the Abbot, probably in conjunction with asteroids.

Here's the solution (and I'm not minimizing the total suck that is this bug): Use a Tier II double-positive GS bludgeoning item.

[Ojsimpsonsux]

The worst glitch in DDO history is the existence of PvP.

Rep to you.

[lazyninja81]

Raise your hand if you own a seal or shard of the ring of spell storing or any other unbelievably popular epic item from the sands and it took less time to get it than the green steel? It's just not possible. It took me 10 months to even pull the ring of spell storing itself and that's a bit easier than doing an entire epic quest.

Exaggerate much?

10 months seems to exceed the time from you're join date till now. Ok so maybe are rounding up a bit, joined March 1st and have been playing non-stop since Korthos trying to get a ring of spell story. Which means you joined with a ton of equipment/game knowledge. I certainly didn't starting knowing all, but then i'm not "awesome".

Btw, the vast majority of people on the forums are very friendly and have been out of their way helpful to me. Perhaps they sense my unawesomeness and pitty me.

[Doomcrew]

lol if you actually got off the forums and played the game, you'd notice that everyone on the forum is an incredible unfriendly, unhepful person there to have an arguement with everyone around them to prove their right. On the other hand, in the game I'm well respected and helpeful and generally awesome. I don't respect you forum members one single tiny bit though and people I don't respect don't get any good will from me.

It's a terrible glitch and if you can't handle that, stop replying.

And yet you post on the forums........

[TigrisMorte]

... Do you even have a lvl 20 character? Do you even do epics?
Lorien_the_First_One, really! I mean like have you ever posted on most topics of merit on this forum? Have you posted more than 16K times? Do you even have 4 years more experience with this game? What would you possibly know about the history here?
Your so uppity!
And you must admit he is devastating something.

[Silent_One]

I'm Gonna Grab A Carnifex And Slowly Kill Me Some Kobolds In Ww Until I Calm Down! Aaargh!

Hurrah For Tyranids!

[PopeJual]

And who said I wanted that seal? I don't even remember what it was. I was trying to sell it lol. Basically any seal is worth a ton if someone needs it and has the other mats. I'm not 100% sure and neither was anyone I asked but if you see a binds to character item and then invite someone to your party and they enter the dungeon then go up to the chest, can you transfer it to them? If memory serves, you actually can do that

Your memory serves incorrectly. If you could do this, I would have invited a couple of Monk friends to pick up those nice Devout Handwraps while I was farming for XP.

The only people who can loot from a chest are people who were inside the quest at the time when that chest was first opened. (Even though each player's loot isn't actually generated until they open the chest themselves, the "I can has loot?" flag is set when the first person pops the chest.)


People who were not in the quest when the chest was popped are not even available in the dropdown menu for choices on passing the loot inside the chest.

Edit: and to clarify, yes I have actively tested this in the Shadow Crypt (or whatever quest it is that has those Handwraps) with a friendly Monk who was not in the quest at the time and again later in the sands with a party member who was in the party when the chest was popped but not yet in the wilderness zone with us. And I did try to close the chest and reopen it when that party member came into the zone with us.