Who hit my lfm?

[AkromaAoW]

Not Bunk. But E, I like myddo for a few reasons. It gives me a chance to look at other builds to see how they selected equip config, etc. It's more a research tool to some then a screening tool. And I've used it alot as such.

Now, have I ever myddo'd the persistently dead member of a group...sure. The only funny thing is it's consistency. Low HP, No Fort = Dead. I do enjoy sometimes looking at the low numbers and wonder what the player is thinking joining my zerg lfm.

Also, some have put some work into their characters. It's kinda of disapointing to see some of my past lives not showing up.

All in all, myddo is not evil. Nor was it's inception I believe. Negative folk will use whatever and make it negative, but it doesn't make it exclusive and only useable for nefarious reasons.

and some +rep to balance the -

/Bows

It's good to "see" you. Sorry I haven't run into you for quite a while. Here's hoping that you have a joyous holiday season.

Cheers,

E.

[AkromaAoW]

One other feature that doesn't work because its broken is the raid timers. Without current updated character information not all of my characters show up so it is inevitably more difficult (i.e more time consuming) to check on which character is off which timer.

It needs to be fixed!

Raid timer tracking? Hmm, I didn't know that. What a a nice feature for constantly raiding folks. Two thumbs up for a terrific constructive use!

[Tarnoc]

Thank you for the kind words, and apologies if you find my opinions trolling. Honestly, I'm not sure what trolling is, but it seems to be associated in many threads with having an opinion opposite from the popular one for the thread. That makes sense as my opinion is opposed to any devisive use of myDDO, and I'm guessing that the OP wants to use myDDO to screen out "lesser" beings. Of course, I could be wrong...

As for waiving the Jesus stick, I don't know what to say. I try to be good to people, and I'm opposed to folks being not so good. If you believe that my opinions are so goodly aligned, what exactly is wrong with that? Unless you think I'm a hypocrite and not following my own doctrine, I'm not sure where the problem lies.

The counter arguement:

People play the game and have the right to play it however they want. It's their money, their time, and they should be able to spend it however they want.

My response:

OK, but I'm sure that you can think of a ton of situations where you might need or want to interact with someone and their desire to do their own thing with their time, money, etc. will impact you in undesirable ways. It's kind of like my students needing extra help after class, and my work day already being 10 hours long and officially over. I'm hungry, tired, and my wife and DDO are calling. Do I stay and help, or do I go home? It's my time, after all. Of course, I stay...(nearly) every time.

Cheers,

E.

OO dont talk about ERRIIK hes super secret.....as for your opinion heres a truth....

most people who would use myddo in the negative way you think would also info the people they denie on why and suggest how they fix the problem.....

without myddo i dont take people i dont know into epic runs ....with my ddo i met many people who were very capable of completing the runs....

thus your thoughts of it being against and negative are INVALID as is your HOLY STICK

[AkromaAoW]

OO dont talk about ERRIIK hes super secret.....as for your opinion heres a truth....

most people who would use myddo in the negative way you think would also info the people they denie on why and suggest how they fix the problem.....

without myddo i dont take people i dont know into epic runs ....with my ddo i met many people who were very capable of completing the runs....

thus your thoughts of it being against and negative are INVALID as is your HOLY STICK

What the heck is a Tarnoc?

[Faent]

Hmmm, you must be right. From now on taking no puggers and short manning everything. TY!

I bet you're in Legion. =)

[Inspire]

/Not signed

Really there is no reason why you shouldn't want MyDDO, it has a lot of useful features. I assume you believe the majority of players are using it for nefarious purposes but it allows you to do more than just screen people coming into your groups.

• It allows you to blog about yourself and your characters.
• Lets people see your intrests, what you enjoy and dont enjoy about DDO.
• Allows you to check your own raid timers so you dont have to swap characters if you dont have an excell spreadsheet or similar.
• You can follow other peoples XP for people who are leveling differently scaled builds(32, 34, and 36pt builds)
• Access to your characters information without logging into the game.

And dozens of other things that elude me at the moment. Point being, If you really don't want your characters to be shown to the world make them anonymous, but don't remove MyDDO because of that one angst. MyDDO has more potential than that.

[AkromaAoW]

Really there is no reason why you shouldn't want MyDDO, it has a lot of useful features. I assume you believe the majority of players are using it for nefarious purposes but it allows you to do more than just screen people coming into your groups.

• It allows you to blog about yourself and your characters.
• Lets people see your intrests, what you enjoy and dont enjoy about DDO.
• Allows you to check your own raid timers so you dont have to swap characters if you dont have an excell spreadsheet or similar.
• You can follow other peoples XP for people who are leveling differently scaled builds(32, 34, and 36pt builds)
• Access to your characters information without logging into the game.

And dozens of other things that elude me at the moment. Point being, If you really don't want your characters to be shown to the world make them anonymous, but don't remove MyDDO because of that one angst. MyDDO has more potential than that.

OK, you win. There have been persuasive posts in this thread to warrant the stabilization of myDDO. It would be helpful if some of the currently broken features were fixed. I hope that it is also possible to realign the segment of the population that WILL use it for more reprehensible purposes.

/salute

E.

[Bunker]

OK, you win. There have been persuasive posts in this thread to warrant the stabilization of myDDO. I hope that it is also possible to realign the segment of the population that WILL use it for more reprehensible purposes.

/salute

E.

Ok devs. Eriik finally approves so you can move the myddo switch back to the 'ON' position now.

-Bunk

P.S. Just a little extra food for thought. Myddo isn't the reason for players bad behavior. With or without it, that sort still exsists.

[holfrar]

ok back on topic.

Just checked my toons on MYDDO, they have all been out of 'sync' for a while, wrong levels, incorrect items etc.

Well they are now all correct!!!

I then checked a guildies toon who (though on her first TR) never appeared on MYDDO and now she is there

Does this mean it is fixed/bring fixed?

NB this was done via the website, not in game, will check that in a bit.

[Bunker]

ok back on topic.

Just checked my toons on MYDDO, they have all been out of 'sync' for a while, wrong levels, incorrect items etc.

Well they are now all correct!!!

I then checked a guildies toon who (though on her first TR) never appeared on MYDDO and now she is there

Does this mean it is fixed/bring fixed?

NB this was done via the website, not in game, will check that in a bit.

It does to appear to have been updated. but not all of it.

[Wizard_Zero]

I like MyDDO for certain things, but I hate how people will try to turn this game into WoW. What do I mean? WoW is very unforgiving to new players. If you don't have the optimal gear, you don't get excepted to parties. To get that gear, you need to do those raids and quest. So you are pretty much in limbo for much of the game, unless you are fortunate to join a really good guild (And the good guilds have too many fanatics that would probably give up their first child if WoW commanded it, you guys who play WoW know what I mean.)

I know there are some DDO "Elitist" who can't understand this concept, but trust me, everyone should have a fair chance to do all quest, even if they don't have what some people call "perfect" gear. This game is supposed to cater to new people, otherwise this game would have been shutdown a long time ago.

If anyone is really afraid that someone in a party is not pulling their weight, there is something called a "Guild." This allows you to group with people who you believe are "good." There are many well organized guilds on DDO that have set raid dates/times and run quest together.

There is already enough discrimination on races and class on LFMs, last thing we need is gear discrimination too. All it takes is a small number of people to have a set belief (i.e. using MyDDO to determine who is good) and others will follow, whether it is right or wrong, basic human psychology 101.

Trust me, discarding MyDDO is the best for the community, at least the gear portion.

[Bunker]

I like MyDDO for certain things, but I hate how people will try to turn this game into WoW. What do I mean? WoW is very unforgiving to new players. If you don't have the optimal gear, you don't get excepted to parties. To get that gear, you need to do those raids and quest. So you are pretty much in limbo for much of the game, unless you are fortunate to join a really good guild (And the good guilds have too many fanatics that would probably give up their first child if WoW commanded it, you guys who play WoW know what I mean.)

I know there are some DDO "Elitist" who can't understand this concept, but trust me, everyone should have a fair chance to do all quest, even if they don't have what some people call "perfect" gear. This game is supposed to cater to new people, otherwise this game would have been shutdown a long time ago.

If anyone is really afraid that someone in a party is not pulling their weight, there is something called a "Guild." This allows you to group with people who you believe are "good." There are many well organized guilds on DDO that have set raid dates/times and run quest together.

There is already enough discrimination on races and class on LFMs, last thing we need is gear discrimination too. All it takes is a small number of people to have a set belief (i.e. using MyDDO to determine who is good) and others will follow, whether it is right or wrong, basic human psychology 101.

Trust me, discarding MyDDO is the best for the community, at least the gear portion.

This is a 'glass is half empty' look at myddo. Discarding a bushel over a few bad apples is bad form.

[Blackbird]

I think this "nefarious" purpose thing is a bit of a red herring. This makes the assumption that, without myDDO, the person being scrutinized would have even had a chance to get into the group to begin with.

Most people have a set of guilds they will auto-accept and auto-decline people from. MyDDO doesn't generally change this (although I have accepted people from a guild I would have normally declined after looking them up on myDDO). People are still going to auto-accept people from guilds they know and have had good experiences with and auto-decline people from guilds that have had a terrible experience with without ever looking them up on myDDO. Therefore, myDDO really only affects the "unknowns". People from guilds you have never heard of or really haven't played with and unguilded people.

Before myDDO, if no one in the party had any real experience with the person/guild hitting the LFM you had 3 choices -- accept them, decline them, or let them sit out there in the hopes someone more familiar would hit the LFM. After myDDO, a 4th choice is added -- look them up on myDDO and make a decision based on that individual's hit points, gear, stats, etc. Thus, I think myDDO is only beneficial. Yes, people are looking up others on myDDO but I think it generally only results in more "unknowns" being let into parties than not.

While it is true that equipment doesn't really tell you how good a player that person is, it is an indicator. If the fighter who just hit the Hound LFM started with an 8 Con, has no fort, and has a few items of Korthos gear on, that person probably doesn't have much knowledge of the game. You can look at someone's stats and equipment and generally tell if they have a working knowledge of the game. It's not absolute but it's a pretty good indicator. I don't think people expect the absolute best gear for every quest but what the person is wearing shows if they know the game at all. It doesn't have to be the best, it just needs to be reasonable.

[blitzschlag]

I like MyDDO for certain things, but I hate how people will try to turn this game into WoW. What do I mean? WoW is very unforgiving to new players. If you don't have the optimal gear, you don't get excepted to parties. To get that gear, you need to do those raids and quest. So you are pretty much in limbo for much of the game, unless you are fortunate to join a really good guild (And the good guilds have too many fanatics that would probably give up their first child if WoW commanded it, you guys who play WoW know what I mean.)

I know there are some DDO "Elitist" who can't understand this concept, but trust me, everyone should have a fair chance to do all quest, even if they don't have what some people call "perfect" gear. This game is supposed to cater to new people, otherwise this game would have been shutdown a long time ago.

If anyone is really afraid that someone in a party is not pulling their weight, there is something called a "Guild." This allows you to group with people who you believe are "good." There are many well organized guilds on DDO that have set raid dates/times and run quest together.

There is already enough discrimination on races and class on LFMs, last thing we need is gear discrimination too. All it takes is a small number of people to have a set belief (i.e. using MyDDO to determine who is good) and others will follow, whether it is right or wrong, basic human psychology 101.

Trust me, discarding MyDDO is the best for the community, at least the gear portion.

hard to explain it to someone that obviously does not want to understand anyway.

myddo is not (or only a really small portion) about gear. and yes, in ddo you need certain gear under certain circumstances to carry your weight. if you don't intend to carry your weight anyway, stay the heck out of my lfm and run your own.

[AkromaAoW]

Ok devs. Eriik finally approves so you can move the myddo switch back to the 'ON' position now.

-Bunk

P.S. Just a little extra food for thought. Myddo isn't the reason for players bad behavior. With or without it, that sort still exsists.

That was just unnecessary, Bunk.

E.

[Tin_Dragon]

Bring back MyDDO! That is all.

/signed.


And bring back individual Death Penalties while your at it. Have I seen this somewhere before?

[Tin_Dragon]

A little bit of me feels sorry for you and all others that focus on the negative. DDO is a game, and games are meant to be fun. So why o'why would you clutter up your day with negativity.

-Bunk

Winning is FUN!
thats all you really need to say Bunk.

[Cauthey]

ok back on topic.

Just checked my toons on MYDDO, they have all been out of 'sync' for a while, wrong levels, incorrect items etc.

Well they are now all correct!!!

I then checked a guildies toon who (though on her first TR) never appeared on MYDDO and now she is there

Does this mean it is fixed/bring fixed?

NB this was done via the website, not in game, will check that in a bit.

Yes, there has been some recent progress with myDDO. It would appear that they are managing to push out updates in batch format, kind of one character at a time.

[Nezichiend]

I fail to see the "nefarious" uses of MyDDO. I will screen people for ToD, for difficult epic quests etc. Not for Shroud or VoD.

I do not lead groups for charity. I do not want to run quests where person X, Y or Z does not constructively participate in the run. If it is possible for them to constructively participate or not, due to poor gear/build/playstyle is not an issue for me. If they can't, do not join.