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    Community Member innersphere1's Avatar
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    Red face Half orc and power attack, need help

    hi i just bough half orc race and im running a barbarian, im lv 3 and love it. i started with 20 str and 18 con on a 32 pt build, at lv 1 i chose THF , and at lv 3 PA .. now im new to melee classes bcause i played wiz, sorc and clr , now i think PA with two handed weapons is -5 to hit and + 10 to dmg right? well now i can see 2 enanchment lines for PA, one bye the orc race and the standard one.. what should i do? have i to take those enanchemnts? will i hit something if i maximize them all? is toughness for next feat a good choice or is better to continue with DPS things? any suggestion accepted from experienced melee players thanks and sry for the english

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    You can take both the Racial and Class PA enhancements, and they'll stack.

    You'll want the full PA lines by endgame, but possibly not immediately. You're to-hit may take a little while to get high enough to afford using them.

    Toughness is a debatable feat for a Barbarian. You have so many HP inherently. Many skip it to fit in Stunning Blow. But either one is a reasonable choice.

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    you need the barbarian one's for the Frenzied Berzerker Prestige line.


    take those first. later one, in the higher levels, max em all out

    it's 22 more damage per hit that way, you'll be able to hit plenty w/ a barb.. just don't take them all too too early.
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    i can see Cleave is needed for the prestige enhancment.. hmm is really worth it? ill prefer toughness instead of this

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    cleave or you are not a barbarian
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    There is absolutely no reason to not take the requirements for the Frenzied Berserker PRE.
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    cleave sucks, as it actually lowers your dps when used.

    BUT it's required for the Frenzy enhancement line..

    if you don't take that, you really won't compare to even the most undergeared frenzy barb.

    it's just numbers, besides, don't you like having a x6 crit multiplier w/ a big old great axe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by innersphere1 View Post
    hi i just bough half orc race and im running a barbarian, im lv 3 and love it. i started with 20 str and 18 con on a 32 pt build, at lv 1 i chose THF , and at lv 3 PA .. now im new to melee classes bcause i played wiz, sorc and clr , now i think PA with two handed weapons is -5 to hit and + 10 to dmg right? well now i can see 2 enanchment lines for PA, one bye the orc race and the standard one.. what should i do? have i to take those enanchemnts? will i hit something if i maximize them all? is toughness for next feat a good choice or is better to continue with DPS things? any suggestion accepted from experienced melee players thanks and sry for the english
    You don't lose the full 5 to-hit till your BAB is 5, iirc, but yes, yer right, might want to wait to take the full line all the way up. You can always turn it off tho, and get a high-plus weapon if that's not going to tank yer dps. Be sure to even out the power rage as well, so that your raged str bump is always even (IMHO, since you can get even str otherwise.)

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