TR Warchanter need help!

[vrobel]

Im going to tr my wizzy soon and i thought of making a warchanter twf with khoepesh or thf with greataxes(if i go dwarf but im not sure if its worth dumping cha for more dps).I think of 16bard/2fighter/2rogue Maxing out umd perform diplomacy and maybe trap skills.
Starting stats would look like this : 32-Points
Str : 16
Dex : 15 taking a +2 tome for twf
Con: 15
int: 8
Wis:8
Cha:14
are the stats ok? do have any other advice ? plz help me im pretty new to bards

[SpartaWolf]

Im going to tr my wizzy soon and i thought of making a warchanter twf with khoepesh or thf with greataxes(if i go dwarf but im not sure if its worth dumping cha for more dps).I think of 16bard/2fighter/2rogue Maxing out umd perform diplomacy and maybe trap skills.
Starting stats would look like this : 32-Points
Str : 16
Dex : 15 taking a +2 tome for twf
Con: 15
int: 8
Wis:8
Cha:14
are the stats ok? do have any other advice ? plz help me im pretty new to bards

if you want rogue in htere to you need to have higher int and with higher int you get more skillpoints

[vrobel]

if you want rogue in htere to you need to have higher int and with higher int you get more skillpoints

i can drop con to 13 and make int to 10 and get a +2 tome

[SpartaWolf]

higher would be nice though maybe decrease str by 1 and con then but in int then get a +2 tome for int that would be good

[vrobel]

higher would be nice though

i can also go thf with greataxes and drop dex and raise con and int but i realy like dual wielding khoepeshs

[Emizand]

warchanter twf with khoepesh or thf with greataxes

TWF check out the Axesinger, Dorf axes instead of peshes.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=195289

THF check out the Classic Rocker

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=249865

[Kahath]

Im going to tr my wizzy soon and i thought of making a warchanter twf with khoepesh or thf with greataxes(if i go dwarf but im not sure if its worth dumping cha for more dps).I think of 16bard/2fighter/2rogue Maxing out umd perform diplomacy and maybe trap skills.
Starting stats would look like this : 32-Points
Str : 16
Dex : 15 taking a +2 tome for twf
Con: 15
int: 8
Wis:8
Cha:14
are the stats ok? do have any other advice ? plz help me im pretty new to bards

Since you are TRig you receive 34 build points. On a warchanter savely drop CHA to 8, you won't be needing it. Get a +2 Tome and a +6 Item and you have enough base charisma to cast spells.

2WF Warforged or Dwarf:
STR: 17
DEX: 15 (+2 Tome for 2WF)
CON: 16
INT: 13 (Get +1 Tome at 3)
WIS: 6 or 8
CHA: 8

After level 3 you will have 8 skill points on bard levels:

1 UMD
1 Perform
1 Haggle
1 Concentration
2 Search
2 DD

On the second rogue level you can put some more points into OL, but you should be fine with just a few ranks into it (say 8 or so).

2HF Warforged or Dwarf:
STR: 18
DEX: 12
CON: 16
INT: 14
WIS: 6 or 8
CHA: 8

[vrobel]

Since you are TRig you receive 34 build points. On a warchanter savely drop CHA to 8, you won't be needing it. Get a +2 Tome and a +6 Item and you have enough base charisma to cast spells.

2WF Warforged or Dwarf:
STR: 17
DEX: 15 (+2 Tome for 2WF)
CON: 16
INT: 13 (Get +1 Tome at 3)
WIS: 6 or 8
CHA: 8

After level 3 you will have 8 skill points on bard levels:

1 UMD
1 Perform
1 Haggle
1 Concentration
2 Search
2 DD

On the second rogue level you can put some more points into OL, but you should be fine with just a few ranks into it (say 8 or so).

2HF Warforged or Dwarf:
STR: 18
DEX: 12
CON: 16
INT: 14
WIS: 6 or 8
CHA: 8

this one looks realy good but still need the level progression .Rouge at start is routine but the fighter lvls ... at end game or asap? also what feats should i take?

[Kahath]

this one looks realy good but still need the level progression .Rouge at start is routine but the fighter lvls ... at end game or asap? also what feats should i take?

For level progression you should look at the Axesinger bard. But basically:

Warforged, 34 pointer
STR: 17 +5 Level +1 Fighter +6 Item +2 Rage +3 Exceptional = 34
DEX: 15 +2 Tome + 1 Rogue +6 Item = 24
CON: 16 +2 WF +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Rage = 28
INT: 13 +1 Tome = 14
WIS: 6
CHA: 8 +2 Tome +6 Item = 16

1: Rogue: 2WF
2: Bard
3: Fighter: Khopesh, WF: Slash
4: Bard
5: Bard
6: Bard: PA
7: Bard
8: Bard << Warchanter I here
9: Bard: Extend << Haste, Displacement here
10: Rogue
11: Fighter: I2WF
12: Bard: IC: Slash
13: Bard
14: Bard
15: Bard: G2WF
16: Bard
17: Bard
18: Bard: O2WF
19: Bard
20: Bard

I didn't check against the planner if you have the required bab for the feats at the given level but it should be correct.

Taking the first rogue at first level is essential as it gives tons of skill points. Second rogue level later gives another skill point boost to up some neglected skills. On the fighter levels just put points into UMD at least to have it maxxed.

[vrobel]

For level progression you should look at the Axesinger bard. But basically:

Warforged, 34 pointer
STR: 17 +5 Level +1 Fighter +6 Item +2 Rage +3 Exceptional = 34
DEX: 15 +2 Tome + 1 Rogue +6 Item = 24
CON: 16 +2 WF +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Rage = 28
INT: 13 +1 Tome = 14
WIS: 6
CHA: 8 +2 Tome +6 Item = 16

1: Rogue: 2WF
2: Bard
3: Fighter: Khopesh, WF: Slash
4: Bard
5: Bard
6: Bard: PA
7: Bard
8: Bard << Warchanter I here
9: Bard: Extend << Haste, Displacement here
10: Rogue
11: Fighter: I2WF
12: Bard: IC: Slash
13: Bard
14: Bard
15: Bard: G2WF
16: Bard
17: Bard
18: Bard: O2WF
19: Bard
20: Bard

I didn't check against the planner if you have the required bab for the feats at the given level but it should be correct.

Taking the first rogue at first level is essential as it gives tons of skill points. Second rogue level later gives another skill point boost to up some neglected skills. On the fighter levels just put points into UMD at least to have it maxxed.

il check that in my planner now...
Oh and thx for the advice