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    Hi all, I haven't played much at the epic game and will be buying fvs for Monday's sale (yay!) so I was just wondering if fvs can solo epics and if so, what type of build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veileira View Post
    Hi all, I haven't played much at the epic game and will be buying fvs for Monday's sale (yay!) so I was just wondering if fvs can solo epics and if so, what type of build?

    Sorry if it's a silly question.
    Not a silly question at all.

    Yes, it is very possible for FvS to solo many epic quests. They have everything needed - self-healing, good damage spells, and speed. Although it all comes down to playstyle and how many resources you want to use, as well as your gearout. FvS have an easier time than many other classes though!
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    Thanks for the speedy reply!

    Great, I have only enough for either fvs OR wf, and I love playing clerics so thought fvs would also be awesome even though the spell selection is more limited than what I'm used to.

    Offensive spells build would be better than melee build you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veileira View Post
    Thanks for the speedy reply!

    Great, I have only enough for either fvs OR wf, and I love playing clerics so thought fvs would also be awesome even though the spell selection is more limited than what I'm used to.

    Offensive spells build would be better than melee build you think?
    Offensive spell builds are great with FvS, once you get blade barrier you never look back!

    Although I do love my WF melee FvS!
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    I disagree with the other posters in the sense that only about 1% of the player base can solo an epic on any character type and my guess is as a newer player this would not be attainable by you without alot of game time investment. What is more important then build is practicing your playing skills. What you have to do is practice using the blade barrior spell over and over because as an FVS trying to solo epics that will be your predominate tool. Another important point is really only certain epic are soloable by an FVS without using massive resources (50ish mana pots). An example of a soloable epic quest by an FVS is Epic Von4.
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    As a sorc I used to solo 4-5 epic quests a night, however after update 7 I am only able to farm Claw of Vulkoor. How do FvS get around the sound burst spam in epics now? Pre U7 protection from evil stopped sound burst, now it does not.

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    Out of all classes, Favored Souls have some of the best solo-ability.

    Yes, some favored souls can solo epic. However that primarily comes down to player skills, gear, tactics, mana pots, patience....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I disagree with the other posters in the sense that only about 1% of the player base can solo an epic on any character type and my guess is as a newer player this would not be attainable by you without alot of game time investment. What is more important then build is practicing your playing skills. What you have to do is practice using the blade barrior spell over and over because as an FVS trying to solo epics that will be your predominate tool. Another important point is really only certain epic are soloable by an FVS without using massive resources (50ish mana pots). An example of a soloable epic quest by an FVS is Epic Von4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I disagree with the other posters in the sense that only about 1% of the player base can solo an epic on any character type and my guess is as a newer player this would not be attainable by you without alot of game time investment. What is more important then build is practicing your playing skills. What you have to do is practice using the blade barrior spell over and over because as an FVS trying to solo epics that will be your predominate tool. Another important point is really only certain epic are soloable by an FVS without using massive resources (50ish mana pots). An example of a soloable epic quest by an FVS is Epic Von4.
    I agree with this, some of the posts in this thread gives the impression that soloing epic is easy on a fvs. Some people managed to do it here or there, but it certainly doesn't represent the norm. You won't be able to do until you've done the epic quests enough with groups to really know and understands the mechanics of the quest.

    FvS are good at soloing everything up to epics. Well, except raids.
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    I have not done any epics solo on my FvS but I definately see how it could be possible with the capstone heal. We did epic chains of flame w/o any resources (a very taxing quest) namely due to concordant opp, torc, FvS capstone heal, and healing amp. With the right build/gear the capstone heal can do 100-150ish non-crit every 6s. I have solo'd elite DQ, elite armath, elite devil assault, and so on without pots. I have other characters and FvS is the most powerful by far.

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    I used to solo Epic Von 4 on my fvs in 8-12 minutes. Depending on your build, speed and skill its possible to do many epics.

    Wiz King is another I can solo, although its very difficult and I would not recommend it. Claw of Vulkoor obviously and Von 1 are the four that I can solo on my fvs.

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    VoN4 can be done by basically any cleric or FvS, but it's a lot easier if you are drow (the invis capstone is just godly, and no, potions and scrolls are not just as good. Not even kinda close).

    Claw of Vulkoor is doable by...well, anyone. Leap of Faith is great for hitting the indiana jones staff pads to pacify the guardians.

    VoN1 seems like a tall order to me. Too many healers, too many trolls with ridiculous regen.

    WizKing is probably doable...another instance where the drow capstone would be immensely helpful. You'd probably need to pack a couple of cleric hirelings to feed you divine vitality though. Even with the 4 shrines available, that is a super long quest.
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    I HAVE soloed some epics, BUT you WILL use a ton of resources (unless you have a torq and a ton of time).


    Why solo? So much faster and fun with a group!!

    even a bad pug is better than soloing stuff! to me anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic View Post
    I have solo'd elite DQ, elite armath, elite devil assault, and so on without pots.
    Since when is taking 2 healers in elite Amrath and DA (which can be healed by a rogue with a high enough UMD to use cure crit wands) the norm?
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    Thanks for all the great advice. I'm looking for a something capable of soloing epics so that I can learn to be less of a noob.

    If the build is good and I can put the gear together, then any problem I have is something I personally need to work on to get better.

    It needs to be something I can do with minimal buying of premium content. I want fvs anyway because I love playing clerics. It'd be easier to go from cleric to fvs than from cleric to sorc I think. I hope so anyway!
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    You don't solo epics to learn to not be a noob, you learn to not be a noob and then maybe you can solo epics.

    Even VoN4 (probably the easiest epic for a FvS to solo) takes some serious game skill to figure out and reliably complete. You're not going to just wander into any epic quest and complete it without having a very specific plan in mind, and the feats/items/spells to back up that plan.
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    Last Stand is pretty solo-able, but it will take serious practice and some somewhat unconventional spell choices (Symbol of Persuasion for one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellkor View Post
    I HAVE soloed some epics, BUT you WILL use a ton of resources (unless you have a torq and a ton of time).


    Why solo? So much faster and fun with a group!!

    even a bad pug is better than soloing stuff! to me anyways.
    Can't agree with a ton of time or resources. While using up resources might speed
    things up considerably don't forget that torc is not the only way to get back sp.
    At the moment torc stacks with both a weapon conc opp and an accesory conc opp.
    Between those two+ lich form I can get 1000 mana back in elite DA or norm/hard sins in
    under 2 mins. While those are by no means close to an epic quest (in damage output
    anyhow) I would assume that given good dr and good healing you can do comparable
    things in epic quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    You don't solo epics to learn to not be a noob, you learn to not be a noob and then maybe you can solo epics.
    Understood, however I think you don't realize that I'm trying to eliminate problem areas in character build choices and gear so those don't distract me in my attempts to be less of a noob.

    I do have other characters and have been playing for over a year, just don't have much experience with epics yet. I'm familiar with the quests on non-epic.

    Thanks to those who answered my question. I will be going for an offensive caster type fvs.

    Drow? I hadn't really considered that because of the shortsword being, well, bleh. But if not going for a melee anyway it doesn't matter much. Would Drow with invis capstone be better than human 28 pt with cure light? Obviously the cure light would have more use in non-solo stuff, but would 28pt be a problem?
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