Holy Assassin - 12 Pal/7 Rog/1 Monk

[lazyninja81]

Have been playing around with a bit of a flavour build (Knight of the Chalice II/Assassin I) and wondering if this will perform like I hope. Haven't seen anything quite like this when I was searching around the forums.

Goals of the build are: support dps, evasion with high saves, good solo ability/self sufficient, high umd, full trap smithing, decent end game AC.

I'm not a number cruncher and not very familiar with high level gear options so I'm not sure if the AC and dps will actually be enough to make it worth while. Also, wondering if it might be better to go 14 pal/6 rog to get 4th lvl spells (mostly zeal). Went with 7 rog for the extra sneak attack die and more skill points, 1 level of monk for feat and extra AC with wis item (will be wearing robes anyway once dex gets high) .

Way it's set out now the build has 5d6 sneak attack, an extra d6 against evil outsiders, divine might II and power attack to help make up for the low str. Build is be a bit weak against undead but exalted smite can can help situationally.

I'll need two +2 tomes at high levels to get PA and DMII. Don't have them yet but imagine they won't take too much to acquire.

Let me know if I missed anything or if there's a better way to get what I'm after. Thanks!

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Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Female
(12 Paladin \ 1 Monk \ 7 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 155 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 23
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    14
Dexterity            16                    24
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             14                    18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 17
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    11
Bluff                 2                    11
Concentration         2                     5
Diplomacy             2                    24
Disable Device        5                    24
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  7                    15
Intimidate            2                     4
Jump                  4                     5
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         7                    15
Open Lock             7                    11
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    26
Spot                  4                     6
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble                4                     8
Use Magic Device      6                    30

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Bluff (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Bluff (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II

[lazyninja81]

Hmm? No suggestions? Did I reinvent the wheel or something? Looked around but didn't see more than a 2 lvl rogue splashed pally. Is it totally gimped to go with a deeper splash? Only reason I didn't go 18/2 is I don't see how I'd be able to do traps past low levels with the very limit skill points pallys get.

[LAWPRE]

This is one of the greatest vanity builds of all time.

This build is PnP impossible but can be done in MMO because GMs do not monitor player actions.

There is nothing technically wrong with the build or your choices but most people will not even consider the build because it is "just not DnD (and 4th ed. IS???)"

There is still some debate about whether or not the Wis bonus works while wearing armor so you may wish to concentrate on AC gear.

[lazyninja81]

This is one of the greatest vanity builds of all time.

This build is PnP impossible but can be done in MMO because GMs do not monitor player actions.

There is nothing technically wrong with the build or your choices but most people will not even consider the build because it is "just not DnD (and 4th ed. IS???)"

There is still some debate about whether or not the Wis bonus works while wearing armor so you may wish to concentrate on AC gear.

I agree, it's a total contradiction but it gives it a bit more flavour than standard cookie cutter 18/2 pally. Thought it would actually be a good RP build as you'd have to have a rather interesting back story.

As far as I know the monk Wis AC bonus only works in robes. I'm planning on wearing armor up to the point when my Dex+Wis bonus with some AC items becomes > than my armor bonus.

[rogue_lover]

I am planning on 12 Paladin/7 Rogue Drow TWF for my next guy. Just need to pick that last level.

Check out http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=218542 and adjust for a little more INT

Also check out posts on the AC is all or nothing for late game.

It should be a blast to play.