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    Default Make flaming sphere to disappear after caster death

    I've found I really like the fact that MOB casters' lingering spells disappear after the caster dies. Right now Flaming Sphere is not one of those spells, and it is even more annoying than most because it moves. Three encounters later, I still have this flaming ball trying to hump me.
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    I personally find it hilarious. Think of it not as an inanimate spell but as a tiny, ******** fire elemental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hityawithastick View Post
    I personally find it hilarious. Think of it not as an inanimate spell but as a tiny, ******** fire elemental.
    At first, it is hilarious in a sad, pathetic way. But after a while it is only annoying. Since you can target it, it interferes with interacting with objects, etc.
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    It's super fun when a hireling starts attacking it with a weapon.
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    Anyone know if Ice Storm will dispel it? Maybe we've finally found that spell's niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hityawithastick View Post
    Anyone know if Ice Storm will dispel it? Maybe we've finally found that spell's niche.
    Well, Ice Storm will have more than a niche after the next update, but I wonder. Has anyone tried gust of wind on flaming sphere?


    Not that this would help my melees. I would still like it to go away after caster death like other lingering spells.
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    One interesting piece of trivia: Flaming Sphere's actually communicate with other monsters in the dungeon.

    I was sneaking around one of the tombs with a Flaming Sphere "agroed" on me, and several undead following it around trying to figure out what it was attacking.
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    it is a summon rather than a lingering spell
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    The following spells definitely get rid of a flaming sphere: (found out about these by accident, trying to kill the casters and mistargetting on the sphere)

    Finger of Death
    Wail of the Banshee
    Slay Living
    Power Word Kill

    Possibly Banishment and the lower level variant too since it's basically a summon spell.

    Pure damage spells do not seem to affect it, not even ice storm.

    Break enchantment can dispel it if you aim it right. I haven't tried dispel magic, but you might give that a shot.

    Cyclonic blast and gust of wind do not seem to affect it at all, but maybe I just keep missing it with them?
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    Blade Barrier also eats those Flaming Spheres for a mini snack.

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    Thanks for the info on spells against flaming sphere. I had not thought of it as a summons. I'd still like it go away or decrease its life ...
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    Dispel can also get rid of flaming spheres - I usually carry one around a wand of it in the low-mid levels to take care of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodasch View Post
    The following spells definitely get rid of a flaming sphere: (found out about these by accident, trying to kill the casters and mistargetting on the sphere)

    Finger of Death
    Wail of the Banshee
    Slay Living
    Power Word Kill

    Possibly Banishment and the lower level variant too since it's basically a summon spell.

    Pure damage spells do not seem to affect it, not even ice storm.

    Break enchantment can dispel it if you aim it right. I haven't tried dispel magic, but you might give that a shot.

    Cyclonic blast and gust of wind do not seem to affect it at all, but maybe I just keep missing it with them?
    I knew it, it IS a tiny ******** elemental!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hityawithastick View Post
    I personally find it hilarious. Think of it not as an inanimate spell but as a tiny, ******** fire elemental.
    I just had to +1 this because it made me laugh so hard the first time I read it...and the second time...and third.
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    If Flaming Sphere is a summon, why isn't it placed under Summon Monster? What abilities does it have which dictates that it occupies another spell slot? I am assuming its because in the PnP version it is designed that way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by asphodeli View Post
    If Flaming Sphere is a summon, why isn't it placed under Summon Monster? What abilities does it have which dictates that it occupies another spell slot? I am assuming its because in the PnP version it is designed that way...
    It's spell school is evocation, not conjuration, and the spell is not a "real" summon like summon monster is. What it is supposed to be doing is creating (not summoning) a spongy material ball that is on fire and rolls around slowly at the caster's direction (based on sustained concentration) and which stays still when not directed to move, or moves in the direction it was last pushed....however, game mechanic wise, it works exactly like a summon does in that it generates a mobile object with friendly AI (just like a pet, but even dumber) which directs it to just continue rolling after hostile mobile objects/NPC's. Because of this, it's susceptible to instant kill effects that would affect a true summon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hityawithastick View Post
    Anyone know if Ice Storm will dispel it? Maybe we've finally found that spell's niche.
    Dispel Magic dispels it. They can be tab targeted.
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    Just double checked and Banishment does not dispel it. All the other spells I listed do destroy it though.
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