Gianthold - only needs 9 of each relic now!

[QuantumFX]

Personally, I think it’s a good change. Back when Gianthold was introduced the 20 relics represented actually playing the rest of the gianthold content. Now that it’s a stepping stone to higher level content and a raid you pike in twice a week it’s not necessary to pin down players to the area.

like, omg, what am i gonna do with my hundreds of relics now . . .

Repair your dragonscale arm… oh wait… nevermind.

[shagath]

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I don't like at all easy buttons. 9 relics is a joke. It's hard to do flagging quests without getting 9 relics.. Why not skip whole flagging? And while we are it, why not just give everyone pair of madstone boots and dreamspitters?

Abbot would be the best if not for the sheer randomness involved. Some peoples have ran those quest for months, without getting that last sigil piece.

That's just same randomness as doing gh quest 100 times without getting a single relic. It's possible but not very likely. Or shroud 100 times without any large ingredients, possible but not likely. I think these people who have done these for months have done like one solo quest per week or something for months. It's still months but not many runs..

[noinfo]

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I don't like at all easy buttons. 9 relics is a joke. It's hard to do flagging quests without getting 9 relics.. Why not skip whole flagging? And while we are it, why not just give everyone pair of madstone boots and dreamspitters?

That's just same randomness as doing gh quest 100 times without getting a single relic. It's possible but not very likely. Or shroud 100 times without any large ingredients, possible but not likely. I think these people who have done these for months have done like one solo quest per week or something for months. It's still months but not many runs..

Same reason that other non end game raids have had their flagging mechanics changed. It was fine when GH was end game years ago. You had nothing else to run especially after they nerfed Abbot. Run them all into the ground, but really this type of flagging is not hard it is tedious. My last toon skipped Tor and Reaver all together, wasn't a TR so just blew through it all together, farming 20 relics of each is just a grind to fill in time between content, nothing else. With 9 of each required no worries, I have that many and will actually go back.

Seriously pretty much all those quests can be soloed for the relics, but why? Just to get into the Pre-Raid before the grind for the actual Raid Loot?

No thanks, best change in a long time...

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I'm just wondering why they went with 9 per, instead of an even 10 per.......

3 quests per section, on n/h/e...9

Perfect, should have always been that way...well that or make it 0. I still think flagging quests should be enough to FLAG you.

[Nysrock]

This will be great news to on guy I partied with in GH. He was trying to flag for Tor and turned in his relics. Then he asked "Ok, so what do I do with the armor I got now?". Seems he thought you had to give them to the GH armor crafters.

[Ryiah]

I don't like at all easy buttons. 9 relics is a joke.

Personally I'm sick of farming relics. On a non-TR character I typically out-level the quests before I have all my relics. I certainly don't want to spend time farming them more than is necessary and I don't want to feel forced to buy them off the auction house just because someone thinks there shouldn't be an "easy button".

This isn't even an "easy button". If you want challenge, you should have legitimate challenge. This "quest" isn't a challenge. It's tedious.

[bryanmeerkat]

Abbot would be the best if not for the sheer randomness involved. Some peoples have ran those quest for months, without getting that last sigil piece.

Really ? Wow they do know they have to run each of the four quests for 1-4 , and dont solo if you want to increase your chance of getting sorted . Often people will be looking for one bit in particular and will be happy to pass other bits to you . Got mine in about 2 laps of each . ( had already done about 4-5 vol solos before i started to concentrate on doing the actual flagging )

I had out leveled GH by the time I knew that i should of been doing flagging as this was my first toon , Im slowly going round now at level 19 getting my flags sorted . Finishing gianthold was the one i was dreading , so was very pleased to see this announcement .

[learst]

Yes!! *falls down on knees and gives praise*

Even on my first ever newbie toon in DDO, this was the single most annoying thing for me in DDO. Considering it's 20 relics of each type, and i can't solo on my bard I had to join other groups running GH quest and I ended with different types of relics. (Before the flames come on, it was my first toon on a pure spellsinger bard)

I was really glad they upped the relic drop rate in a previous update (7? 8?) where i ran two quests on normal and both drop 3 relics each time. I'm glad they finally lowered the relic requirement. Now I don't have to wait till lvl 17 to finally do Reaver's Raid!

[Krag]

I approve of the change.
Now it is worth getting my TR toons flagged each life.

[sweez]

The only other level 13 quest currently in the game is Mired in Kobolds, which is not seem to be good XP/min (haven't really given it much of a chance, though).

It's actually decent if you have a quick way of disposing the crystals - mad run to the end, pop in, kill baby dragon, ddoor out. 2-3 minutes max.

[Bolo_Grubb]

wow guess I will wait to turn mine in and have enough for 2 toons instead of 1

[Ojsimpsonsux]

THANK GOD. That's all i have to say for now.

[KillEveryone]

I'm glad.

I never got into the raid until well after I hit cap. Didn't want to farm relics because it was just boring. I like Gianthold quests but to run them enough times to get enough relics gets boring and I don't like doing rares repeatedly just to get something to get into another quest. I feel like I'm killing rats for their tails when I do rares for the relics.

Flagging quests should get you flagged. I don't feel they should be a grind. I feel the same with the sigil pieces for Litany.

I think there should be a different mechanism to flag and just keep the relics for armors.

Anything that reduces a grind is a good thing.

[ragwa1]

Some old timers might not like this, but for me, in leveling my first toon to 20, one of the major things that was NOT FUN in my grind was getting 20 of each relic to advance the quest to Gianthold Tor.

For me, this is excellent news, as I plan on TRing my toon soon, and its nice to know the second go round is going to be a lot more fun the next spin!

And thus, the price of relics just dropped by 50%...

Lol, there goes part of my income

[DANTEIL]

This is an awesome change that I have wished for many times. As many people have pointed out, it made more sense when this was endgame content, but now farming 20 x 3 relics is such a pain that you either don't do it at all, or accept that you are going to overlevel the raid by the time you are done. +1 to sanity!

[Zenako]

Well it looks like getting relics for flagging will be pretty trivial now.

Have a character who has only run explorers chests and the 6 lesser quests once each on normal so far and has 13, 11 and 8 relics to date, without even doing the BIG three or farming for more rares on the way back out. Most of the time, I usually would end up right around 20 each on characters flagging anyway, so did not view it as much if any of an obstacle.

[Harncw]

I hope whomever it is that has been hoarding the relics on Khyber, loses their shirt.

[Irinis]

Finally.

This is only good news. I hope they didn't lower the drop rates.

Agreed and signed enthusiastically!

I have a level 20 that's still not flagged, a level 12 coming up, and the only way I flagged the 2 characters that are was through AH and generosity of friends. They were just NOT dropping for me except for Giant relics. I have 13 of those left, 4 Elven and 3 Dragon! Maybe in another few months of grinding after this change, I can get my level 20 flagged for Tor, and another few months for the level 12. lol

[Rumbaar]

A much welcomed changed. Special since Gianthold is no longer end game content anymore.

[Frostwhisperer]

Oh frabjulous day! Callooh! Callayh! I chortle in mah joy