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    Question is this a good build??

    im kindda new at this build making stuff, but i think this might be a good 2 bastard sword DPS self healing thingy. (i dont really know what to call it yet!!)

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
    (20 Favored Soul) 
    Hit Points: 322
    Spell Points: 2317 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             16                 18                   18
    Dexterity            16                 18                   18
    Constitution         14                 16                   16
    Intelligence          8                 10                   10
    Wisdom                8                 10                   10
    Charisma             14                 21                   26
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                  4                    4
    Bluff                 2                  8                    8
    Concentration         6                 21                   24
    Diplomacy             2                  8                   10
    Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                 12                   12
    Heal                 -1                 11                   15
    Hide                  3                  4                    4
    Intimidate            2                  8                    8
    Jump                  5                 20                   24
    Listen               -1                  0                    0
    Move Silently         3                  4                    4
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                  0                    0
    Search               -1                  0                    0
    Spot                 -1                  0                    0
    Swim                  3                  6                    6
    Tumble                n/a                5                    5
    Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a                   n/a
    
    {\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par +5 Paralyzing Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Paralyzing Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Ghost Touch Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Ghost Touch Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Vorpal Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Vorpal Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Deathblock Mithral Full Plate of Invulnerability \par Ogre Power Bracers of Sustenance \par Striding Boots of Tumbling \par Feather Falling Boots of Springing \par Dexterous Gloves of Repairing \par Health Belt of Greater False Life \par Charismatic Cloak of Resistance \par Superior Combustion IV Ring of the Archmagi \par Clever Visor of the Eagle \par Clever Visor of Minute Seeing \par Blindness Ward Goggles \par Minos Legens \par Proof against Poison Necklace of Haggling \par Voice of the Master \par Superior Devotion IV Ring of the Archmagi \par Greater Devotion VI Ring of the Archmagi \par Ring \par Wise Ring of the Archmagi \par Disease Immunity Necklace of Underwater Action \par  \par Level 1 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Mental Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Spell (1): Divine Favor
    Spell (1): Nightshield
    
    
    Level 2 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Spell (1): Shield of Faith
    
    
    Level 3 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Eschew Materials
    Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host
    Spell (1): Remove Fear
    
    
    Level 4 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Improved Heal I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
    
    
    Level 5 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
    Spell (2): Resist Energy
    
    
    Level 6 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
    Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
    
    
    Level 7 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
    Spell (3): Mass Aid
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
    
    
    Level 8 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Spell (4): Divine Power
    
    
    Level 9 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
    
    
    Level 10 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
    Spell (5): Raise Dead
    Enhancement: Improved Jump III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
    
    
    Level 11 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Heal (+3)
    Spell (3): Remove Disease
    Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 12 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host
    Spell (6): Heal
    
    
    Level 13 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Spell (4): Restoration
    Spell (5): Protection From Elements
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
    
    
    Level 14 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Swim (+0.5)
    Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
    
    
    Level 15 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Swim (+1.5)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (5): Flame Strike
    Spell (6): Harm
    Spell (7): Resurrection
    
    
    Level 16 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Spell (8): Death Pact
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
    Enhancement: Improved Jump IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
    
    
    Level 17 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
    Spell (7): Destruction
    Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
    
    
    Level 18 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Spell (9): Mass Heal
    
    
    Level 19 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
    Spell (9): True Resurrection
    
    
    Level 20 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
    Enhancement: Improved Heal II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
    Woah, i didnt know how ugly that looks this it just as codes, lol! i hope this looks better as all the colours and stuff.

    yeah you kindda start out rough it works out... later :'(

    and yeah you can change out the other raise and ress when you get the next one and shiels of faith for the mass and simple stuff like that but it mite take 6,9, or 12 days lol!
    Last edited by TheOneofShadows; 12-02-2010 at 09:12 PM.

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    Not bad. The damage won't compare to high end melee toons, but you've got a good stat distribution there.

    The feats on the other hand, need a little work.

    Mental toughness is not needed on a favored soul, you'll have plenty of mana without it, and frankly, you're going to be a little feat starved as you're trying to heal and dps.

    The same goes for eschew materials.

    So, what I would do is drop those three, use two to grab ITWF and GTWF, and use the last one in empower healing so you can heal late game.

    Also: always worth considering Khopesh over Bastard Sword, though I understand if you prefer the swords.

    Kudos for getting quicken, though I'd move it up a little bit.

    One final note for enhancements: as soon as you get quicken, you can drop the concentration line, and move the points wherever you see fit.
    Last edited by nrm3000; 12-02-2010 at 09:16 PM.

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    I suggest you look at some of the other TWF Favored Soul builds available on the forums. There's a lot of problems with your build, and unfortunately, I don't have time to go through them all. As a quick summary, drop Charisma for more Wisdom, Dex to the minimum for GTWF, and dump all of your feats except Toughness, TWF, and maybe Quicken if you can fit it in. Then look at the builds I mentioned and determine what feats you really need. Oh, and don't use Bastard Swords, they aren't worth the feat unless you have some truly amazing ones already in the bank. Even then, they probably aren't worth it once you get some decent khopeshes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrm3000 View Post
    Also: always worth considering Khopesh over Bastard Sword, though I understand if you prefer the swords.
    what is the difference between the khopesh and the bastard sword? ive never seen anything except how they look.

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    Khopesh:
    Damage: (1-8) 1d8 + 0 Slash
    Critical Roll: (10%/3-24) 19 - 20 / x3

    Bastard Sword
    Damage: (1-10) 1d10 + 0 Slash
    Critical Roll: (10%/2-20) 19 - 20 / x2

    While the bastard sword appears better at first, when you're doing 1d8+a bajillion damage late game, the x3 crit modifier matters more. Much more. Saw a screenshot of a guy getting 2d8+52 iirc

    I wouldn't worry about the Wisdom unless you're planning to do some CC, which I assume you aren't (if you are, drop the dex to 8 and go for a THF instead). I imagine quicken will be needed since you'll get getting bopped a lot in front-line combat.
    Last edited by nrm3000; 12-02-2010 at 09:25 PM.

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    Drop Mental Toughness and Improved Mental Toughness, you have plenty of sp as a Favored Soul.

    Drop Eschew Materials, it's one of the most useless feats in the game.

    Get TWF at 1st level, not 12th level. Pick up ITWF and GTWF when your BAB allows it.

    Put the ability increases into Str, not Cha. Items can be used to get your Cha high enough to cast your highest level spells. The extra Str will increase your melee capabilities.

    Drop the skill points in Heal and put them into Diplomacy instead.

    There are better weapons to dual wield than bastard swords. Unless you already have some good bastard swords reserved for this character, you are better of dual wielding long swords, since being favored by the Sovereign Host will get you bonuses to using long swords.


    EDIT: Also, forget about getting any offensive spells with this character. Stick to healing and buffs. You don't have the wisdom to cast anything offensive.

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    Question any better?

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
    (20 Favored Soul) 
    Hit Points: 322
    Spell Points: 2049 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
    Strength             16                 20            
    Dexterity            16                 20            
    Constitution         14                 16            
    Intelligence          8                 10            
    Wisdom                8                 10            
    Charisma             14                 17            
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting            Ending          
                     Base Skills        Base Skills       
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
    Balance               3                  5            
    Bluff                 2                  6            
    Concentration         6                 19            
    Diplomacy             2                 17            
    Disable Device       n/a                n/a           
    Haggle                3                 10            
    Heal                 -1                  0            
    Hide                  3                  5            
    Intimidate            2                  6            
    Jump                  5                 23            
    Listen               -1                  0            
    Move Silently         3                  5            
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a           
    Perform               n/a               n/a           
    Repair               -1                  0            
    Search               -1                  0            
    Spot                 -1                  0            
    Swim                  3                  7            
    Tumble                n/a                6            
    Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a           
    
    Level 1 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Spell (1): Divine Favor
    Spell (1): Nightshield
    
    
    Level 2 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Spell (1): Shield of Faith
    
    
    Level 3 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host
    Spell (1): Remove Fear
    
    
    Level 4 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    
    
    Level 5 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
    Spell (2): Resist Energy
    
    
    Level 6 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
    
    
    Level 7 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
    Spell (3): Mass Aid
    
    
    Level 8 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Spell (4): Divine Power
    
    
    Level 9 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
    
    
    Level 10 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
    Spell (5): Raise Dead
    
    
    Level 11 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
    Spell (3): Remove Disease
    Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 12 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host
    Spell (6): Heal
    
    
    Level 13 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Spell (4): Restoration
    Spell (5): Protection From Elements
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
    
    
    Level 14 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Swim (+0.5)
    Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
    
    
    Level 15 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Swim (+1.5)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (7): Resurrection
    Spell (5): Spell Resistance
    Spell (6): Heroes Feast
    
    
    Level 16 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Spell (8): Death Pact
    
    
    Level 17 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
    Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (7): Greater Restoration
    
    
    Level 18 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Spell (9): Mass Heal
    
    
    Level 19 (Favored Soul)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Spell (9): True Resurrection
    Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
    
    
    Level 20 (Favored Soul)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
    i only took the sovereign host to get the infinity cure light wounds!
    Last edited by TheOneofShadows; 12-02-2010 at 09:50 PM.

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    Too much infoclutter in build to filter through it to find the feats.


    Stats are okay for melee + heals.
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    The way I see it, you have two basic options for a TWF pure human FvS:

    • Dump-stat WIS and ignore offensive spells to focus on melee DPS, buffs, and heals. Start base stats something like 16 / 15 / 14 / 12 / 8 / 12 (I like extra skill pts and you don't need a lot of base CHA IMHO) and put all your lvl-ups into STR. Depending on your priorities, take 8 of the following feats: Toughness, TWF x3, Imp Crit Slash, Power Attack, khopesh (or stick with longswords), Quicken, Extend, Emp / Emp Heal / Maximize.
    • Do something like Impaqt's Superior Soul: caster-focused, but enough STR & melee feats to do decent DPS (for longswords, anyway).

    In both cases you'll notice you end up feat-constrained; there's no way to fit in everything you could want for melee and spells. So you have to make some tough choices about what your build & gameplay priorities are.

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