im kindda new at this build making stuff, but i think this might be a good 2 bastard sword DPS self healing thingy. (i dont really know what to call it yet!!)
Woah, i didnt know how ugly that looks this it just as codes, lol! i hope this looks better as all the colours and stuff.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.0 BETA DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Favored Soul) Hit Points: 322 Spell Points: 2317 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 16 Will: 12 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 16 18 18 Dexterity 16 18 18 Constitution 14 16 16 Intelligence 8 10 10 Wisdom 8 10 10 Charisma 14 21 26 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 3 4 4 Bluff 2 8 8 Concentration 6 21 24 Diplomacy 2 8 10 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 3 12 12 Heal -1 11 15 Hide 3 4 4 Intimidate 2 8 8 Jump 5 20 24 Listen -1 0 0 Move Silently 3 4 4 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair -1 0 0 Search -1 0 0 Spot -1 0 0 Swim 3 6 6 Tumble n/a 5 5 Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a {\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par +5 Paralyzing Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Paralyzing Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Ghost Touch Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Ghost Touch Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Vorpal Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Vorpal Metalline Bastard Sword of Pure Good \par +5 Deathblock Mithral Full Plate of Invulnerability \par Ogre Power Bracers of Sustenance \par Striding Boots of Tumbling \par Feather Falling Boots of Springing \par Dexterous Gloves of Repairing \par Health Belt of Greater False Life \par Charismatic Cloak of Resistance \par Superior Combustion IV Ring of the Archmagi \par Clever Visor of the Eagle \par Clever Visor of Minute Seeing \par Blindness Ward Goggles \par Minos Legens \par Proof against Poison Necklace of Haggling \par Voice of the Master \par Superior Devotion IV Ring of the Archmagi \par Greater Devotion VI Ring of the Archmagi \par Ring \par Wise Ring of the Archmagi \par Disease Immunity Necklace of Underwater Action \par \par Level 1 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host Feat: (Human Bonus) Mental Toughness Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Nightshield Level 2 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Spell (1): Shield of Faith Level 3 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Feat: (Selected) Eschew Materials Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host Spell (1): Remove Fear Level 4 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Improved Heal I Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Improved Jump II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II Level 5 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Spell (2): Resist Energy Level 6 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+1) Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Level 7 (Favored Soul) Skill: Jump (+2) Spell (2): Remove Paralysis Spell (3): Mass Aid Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III Level 8 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Haggle (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Spell (4): Divine Power Level 9 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Haggle (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (3): Remove Curse Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Level 10 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Haggle (+1) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid Spell (5): Raise Dead Enhancement: Improved Jump III Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II Level 11 (Favored Soul) Skill: Heal (+3) Spell (3): Remove Disease Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Level 12 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host Spell (6): Heal Level 13 (Favored Soul) Skill: Heal (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Spell (4): Restoration Spell (5): Protection From Elements Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Level 14 (Favored Soul) Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Swim (+0.5) Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds Level 15 (Favored Soul) Skill: Swim (+1.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Spell (5): Flame Strike Spell (6): Harm Spell (7): Resurrection Level 16 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Tumble (+1) Spell (8): Death Pact Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III Enhancement: Improved Jump IV Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV Level 17 (Favored Soul) Skill: Jump (+3) Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith Spell (7): Destruction Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Level 18 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Heal (+1) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Spell (9): Mass Heal Level 19 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Heal (+1) Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Spell (9): True Resurrection Level 20 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Jump (+3) Spell (9): Summon Monster IX Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Enhancement: Improved Concentration II Enhancement: Improved Concentration III Enhancement: Improved Heal II Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
yeah you kindda start out rough it works out... later :'(
and yeah you can change out the other raise and ress when you get the next one and shiels of faith for the mass and simple stuff like that but it mite take 6,9, or 12 days lol!
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12-02-2010, 10:03 PM #1Community Member
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is this a good build??
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12-02-2010, 10:11 PM #2Community Member
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Not bad. The damage won't compare to high end melee toons, but you've got a good stat distribution there.
The feats on the other hand, need a little work.
Mental toughness is not needed on a favored soul, you'll have plenty of mana without it, and frankly, you're going to be a little feat starved as you're trying to heal and dps.
The same goes for eschew materials.
So, what I would do is drop those three, use two to grab ITWF and GTWF, and use the last one in empower healing so you can heal late game.
Also: always worth considering Khopesh over Bastard Sword, though I understand if you prefer the swords.
Kudos for getting quicken, though I'd move it up a little bit.
One final note for enhancements: as soon as you get quicken, you can drop the concentration line, and move the points wherever you see fit.Last edited by nrm3000; 12-02-2010 at 10:16 PM.
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12-02-2010, 10:16 PM #3Community Member
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what is the difference between the khopesh and the bastard sword? ive never seen anything except how they look.
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12-02-2010, 10:19 PM #4Community Member
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Khopesh:
Damage: (1-8) 1d8 + 0 Slash
Critical Roll: (10%/3-24) 19 - 20 / x3
Bastard Sword
Damage: (1-10) 1d10 + 0 Slash
Critical Roll: (10%/2-20) 19 - 20 / x2
While the bastard sword appears better at first, when you're doing 1d8+a bajillion damage late game, the x3 crit modifier matters more. Much more. Saw a screenshot of a guy getting 2d8+52 iirc
I wouldn't worry about the Wisdom unless you're planning to do some CC, which I assume you aren't (if you are, drop the dex to 8 and go for a THF instead). I imagine quicken will be needed since you'll get getting bopped a lot in front-line combat.Last edited by nrm3000; 12-02-2010 at 10:25 PM.
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12-02-2010, 10:15 PM #5Founder
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I suggest you look at some of the other TWF Favored Soul builds available on the forums. There's a lot of problems with your build, and unfortunately, I don't have time to go through them all. As a quick summary, drop Charisma for more Wisdom, Dex to the minimum for GTWF, and dump all of your feats except Toughness, TWF, and maybe Quicken if you can fit it in. Then look at the builds I mentioned and determine what feats you really need. Oh, and don't use Bastard Swords, they aren't worth the feat unless you have some truly amazing ones already in the bank. Even then, they probably aren't worth it once you get some decent khopeshes.
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12-02-2010, 10:20 PM #6Community Member
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Drop Mental Toughness and Improved Mental Toughness, you have plenty of sp as a Favored Soul.
Drop Eschew Materials, it's one of the most useless feats in the game.
Get TWF at 1st level, not 12th level. Pick up ITWF and GTWF when your BAB allows it.
Put the ability increases into Str, not Cha. Items can be used to get your Cha high enough to cast your highest level spells. The extra Str will increase your melee capabilities.
Drop the skill points in Heal and put them into Diplomacy instead.
There are better weapons to dual wield than bastard swords. Unless you already have some good bastard swords reserved for this character, you are better of dual wielding long swords, since being favored by the Sovereign Host will get you bonuses to using long swords.
EDIT: Also, forget about getting any offensive spells with this character. Stick to healing and buffs. You don't have the wisdom to cast anything offensive.
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12-02-2010, 10:36 PM #7Community Member
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any better?
i only took the sovereign host to get the infinity cure light wounds!Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.0 BETA DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Favored Soul) Hit Points: 322 Spell Points: 2049 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 17 Will: 12 Starting Ending Abilities Base Stats Base Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 16 20 Dexterity 16 20 Constitution 14 16 Intelligence 8 10 Wisdom 8 10 Charisma 14 17 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Ending Base Skills Base Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 3 5 Bluff 2 6 Concentration 6 19 Diplomacy 2 17 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle 3 10 Heal -1 0 Hide 3 5 Intimidate 2 6 Jump 5 23 Listen -1 0 Move Silently 3 5 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 0 Search -1 0 Spot -1 0 Swim 3 7 Tumble n/a 6 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Nightshield Level 2 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Spell (1): Shield of Faith Level 3 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host Spell (1): Remove Fear Level 4 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: DEX Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Level 5 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Spell (2): Resist Energy Level 6 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Level 7 (Favored Soul) Skill: Jump (+2) Spell (2): Remove Paralysis Spell (3): Mass Aid Level 8 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: DEX Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Haggle (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Spell (4): Divine Power Level 9 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Haggle (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (3): Remove Curse Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Level 10 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Haggle (+1) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid Spell (5): Raise Dead Level 11 (Favored Soul) Skill: Diplomacy (+3) Spell (3): Remove Disease Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Level 12 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host Spell (6): Heal Level 13 (Favored Soul) Skill: Diplomacy (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Spell (4): Restoration Spell (5): Protection From Elements Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Level 14 (Favored Soul) Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Swim (+0.5) Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds Level 15 (Favored Soul) Skill: Swim (+1.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Spell (7): Resurrection Spell (5): Spell Resistance Spell (6): Heroes Feast Level 16 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Tumble (+1) Spell (8): Death Pact Level 17 (Favored Soul) Skill: Jump (+3) Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Spell (7): Greater Restoration Level 18 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Spell (9): Mass Heal Level 19 (Favored Soul) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Spell (9): True Resurrection Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Level 20 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Jump (+3) Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
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12-03-2010, 09:51 AM #8Community Member
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Too much infoclutter in build to filter through it to find the feats.
Stats are okay for melee + heals.Erzskalde (Warchanter) / Erzassassin (just passing through - ignore me) / Erzsoldat (waiting for TR-time) / Erzschmied (ranged Artificer)
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12-03-2010, 11:37 AM #9Build Constructionist
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The way I see it, you have two basic options for a TWF pure human FvS:
- Dump-stat WIS and ignore offensive spells to focus on melee DPS, buffs, and heals. Start base stats something like 16 / 15 / 14 / 12 / 8 / 12 (I like extra skill pts and you don't need a lot of base CHA IMHO) and put all your lvl-ups into STR. Depending on your priorities, take 8 of the following feats: Toughness, TWF x3, Imp Crit Slash, Power Attack, khopesh (or stick with longswords), Quicken, Extend, Emp / Emp Heal / Maximize.
- Do something like Impaqt's Superior Soul: caster-focused, but enough STR & melee feats to do decent DPS (for longswords, anyway).
In both cases you'll notice you end up feat-constrained; there's no way to fit in everything you could want for melee and spells. So you have to make some tough choices about what your build & gameplay priorities are.
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