Acrobat III

[The_Phenx]

Pretty super please?

[Monroid]

Needs more pickpocket skill before we can have the Acrobat III line

And maybe give Perform as a class skill if you get the Acrobat PrE so you can make some cool tricks to... crowd control? Or maybe a pretty Sunder or Trip

[The_Phenx]

Yes. Sleight of hand would be great as well.

[Valindria]

Pretty super please?

Yes, but after finishing Bards and Bard Tod Items.


My acrobat has been 11 for a long time now.

[The_Phenx]

And fixing the Actobat TOD sets too...

[Tanka]

And fixing the Actobat TOD sets too...

And all the non-Shintao, non-FB, non-Ravager sets too.

[NeutronStar]

And all the non-Shintao, non-FB, non-Ravager sets too.

Yes

[Resilian]

Ninja Spy III. Please?

[The_Phenx]

Ninja Spy III. Please?

Acrobats have been waiting longer.. no cuttsies

[Kasen_Darksword]

Yeah, I agree acrobats are gimp. Give them x3 crit with quarterstaffs for tier III Acrobat

[Fionivar]

I'll second those ToD set updates. I do think however that Acrobats have THE most USELESS set bonus in the game for a PrE that actually exists. I've been playing with in shroud runs on Harry, constantly checking his info for when it procs. I'm pretty sure it's around 2-3% or less proc rate, I'm seeing 1-2 a minute with a 110 attack per min acrobat hasted and boosted. The debuff lasts FIFTEEN SECONDS and is just -2 AC.. It's the lightning stike proc rate of suck. Oh, and we get +15 jump.. when most acrobats have a STR of 30 or more, and the belt is a 3x15 min +30 jump buff. Yeah.. don't need a single point in jump and have over a 40 skill.. who the heck needs 15 more?!? Blarg..

I will give an honerable mention to Occult Slayer though.. wow that's a junky set bonus.

[Mr_Tank]

Yeah, I agree acrobats are gimp. Give them x3 crit with quarterstaffs for tier III Acrobat

No just a +1 to the crit so we can have a x4 rahl's might

[rest]

Acrobats have been waiting longer.. no cuttsies

How about a sorc PrE?

[wiglin]

I doubt we will see an expanded crit range. Probably something more like,

Full Attack Bonus with Quarterstaffs
Another +10% Attack Speed
Vorpal Hits Knockdown Enemy (DC = ?)

[Jaid314]

I'll second those ToD set updates. I do think however that Acrobats have THE most USELESS set bonus in the game for a PrE that actually exists. I've been playing with in shroud runs on Harry, constantly checking his info for when it procs. I'm pretty sure it's around 2-3% or less proc rate, I'm seeing 1-2 a minute with a 110 attack per min acrobat hasted and boosted. The debuff lasts FIFTEEN SECONDS and is just -2 AC.. It's the lightning stike proc rate of suck. Oh, and we get +15 jump.. when most acrobats have a STR of 30 or more, and the belt is a 3x15 min +30 jump buff. Yeah.. don't need a single point in jump and have over a 40 skill.. who the heck needs 15 more?!? Blarg..

I will give an honerable mention to Occult Slayer though.. wow that's a junky set bonus.

pale master gives 60% damage boost to negative energy spells... aka less than you get from a superior clicky (it does equal a greater clicky though). literally, the pale master set is *trumped* by simply having a random item. an item that doesn't even take up a slot, at that.

+2 exceptional will and reflex sounds pretty good in comparison. not to mention it's on a con 6 GFL belt and a str 6 +1 exc con ring, either of which are pretty decent to begin with.

[oradafu]

I'll second those ToD set updates. I do think however that Acrobats have THE most USELESS set bonus in the game for a PrE that actually exists. I've been playing with in shroud runs on Harry, constantly checking his info for when it procs. I'm pretty sure it's around 2-3% or less proc rate, I'm seeing 1-2 a minute with a 110 attack per min acrobat hasted and boosted. The debuff lasts FIFTEEN SECONDS and is just -2 AC.. It's the lightning stike proc rate of suck. Oh, and we get +15 jump.. when most acrobats have a STR of 30 or more, and the belt is a 3x15 min +30 jump buff. Yeah.. don't need a single point in jump and have over a 40 skill.. who the heck needs 15 more?!? Blarg..

It could be the person who designed the Morah's Belt thought it was part of a cleric's set, since we all know clerics can't jump...
Actually, the only the usefulness that Morah's Belt has on a Thief Acrobat is that when traveling to the different enterances in Into the Deep, the rogue will can get into positive jumping stats... So not really that useful with both the +15 jump and jump clicky, especially since Thief Acrobat's can at level 18 should be able to hit the 40 jump cap with the Showtime clicky.

BTW, I think Wiglin is correct on what we should expect to be given to Thief Acrobat. Fingers cross for third tier to make quarterstaves a Finesse weapon when equiped by Thief Acrobats since they get all those extra bumps in Dex, such as Rogue Dexterity III and Showtime's +4 Dex.

[Seliana]

Nah they should do Mechanic III first, Acrobats can wait.

[Jaid314]

BTW, I think Wiglin is correct on what we should expect to be given to Thief Acrobat. Fingers cross for third tier to make quarterstaves a Finesse weapon when equiped by Thief Acrobats since they get all those extra bumps in Dex, such as Rogue Dexterity III and Showtime's +4 Dex.

that would be *incredibly* bad.

think about it. for 18 levels, you couldn't use finesse. what the heck are you gonna do for the first 18 levels?

if they're going to make quarterstaff a finesse weapon for acrobats, it *needs* to be done early. i absolutely don't support any suggestions to add this in to acrobat III, it either needs to be added into acrobat I, or it just shouldn't happen.

[Xenus_Paradox]

Just have it *ADD* your Dex mod (on top of Str) to attack/damage with QSs.

[Trillea]

Just have it *ADD* your Dex mod (on top of Str) to attack/damage with QSs.

It already does this on sneak attacks, for damage at least.