Apollo, Fvs/Rogue 19/1

[psycho74]

well..... i'm going to try again.....

please, give me suggestion on how to improve (or rebuilt) my next char.
Take in consideration that i'd like to have good soloability: that's the reason of that single rogue lv... to have some (even if not perfect) chance in detecting and disabling traps......

i didn't take in consideration any TOME (Btw.... can you tell me WHEN and HOW to take those TOMES you all talk about???? how many can i take??) or EQUIPMENTS because... i don't know IF/WHEN/WHICH ONE i may find or buy but..... i'm sure they will off course improve my stats!!

so....1 rogue lv for traps..... FvS focused on offensive (or... at least... that's what i pretended to do!! lol) with the EMPOWER feat/improved empower enanches and spell focus.... but also improved healing capabilities to .....still be a healer!!

the only thing i'm not sure of (and i ask you to tell me what you think).... is the MELEE capability!! ...i know i'll find tomes/items to have better STRENGHT and DEXTERITY but..... think this toon will still be able to ...FIGHT???
i don't want to be a tank or a great DPS but.... at least.... i want to be able to self defend myself with swords!!

any suggestion/critique accepted..... even for spell selection!!!
(btw.... the selected ones will be the ONLY spells i'll learn or.... just like wizards... i'll be able to BUY and LEARN more during the game?)

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Apollo 
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(1 Rogue \ 19 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 300
Spell Points: 1927 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 12
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             12                 12                   12
Dexterity             8                  8                    8
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         14                 14                   14
Wisdom               16                 19                   22
Charisma             14                 16                   18

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                  3                    3
Bluff                 2                  4                    4
Concentration         2                 23                   23
Diplomacy             2                  4                    4
Disable Device        6                 17                   20
Haggle                4                  6                    6
Heal                  3                  8                    8
Hide                 -1                 -1                   -1
Intimidate            2                  4                    4
Jump                  5                  5                    5
Listen                7                 10                   10
Move Silently        -1                 -1                   -1
Open Lock             3                  4                    7
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                6                  6                    6
Search                6                 15                   15
Spot                  7                 13                   14
Swim                  5                  5                    5
Tumble                1                  1                    1
Use Magic Device      6                 20                   20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Repair (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Command
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (4): Deathward
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (7): Destruction
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering II


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (6): Cometfall
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (8): Firestorm
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (8): Death Pact
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (9): Implosion
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering III

[FuzzyDuck81]

Giving up the capstone DR & free unlimited spell use for trap-disarming ability without having the 2nd level for evasion? not really a good idea.

It could be useful as you level, however once you get the wings you can use those to skip past most traps without too much hassle & the trap-disarming capability is best left to a proper rogue (or mix).

[Lansirill]

The free spell tends to be mediocre, but the dr is definitely nice. if you give up the capstone, at least get evasion... You can live without without true resurrection; mass heal is the only must have for me. Take minimal charisma to cast your spells and dump wisdom. Get strength and constitution up, and you should have enough dps to be worth the bother. If you manage to fit in offensive casing, healing, and melee congratulations... But it probably wrong work well.

I only skimmed your post due to the awkward formatting so if I misunderstood I apologize.

[psycho74]

Giving up the capstone DR & free unlimited spell use for trap-disarming ability without having the 2nd level for evasion? not really a good idea.

i realized that the DR capstone is really a great loss but... i think at lv 20..... CURE LIGHT WOUND is not so useful! (even if free..... i think the damage dealt by hi levels mobs is much greater than the amout of hit point a FREE CURE LIGHT WOUND can fullfill! ..but... i may be wrong!!)
But..... EVASION??? actually.... i lost it!!!
well..... when you actually suggest me to take this 2nd rogue lv?

The free spell tends to be mediocre, but the dr is definitely nice. if you give up the capstone, at least get evasion... You can live without without true resurrection; mass heal is the only must have for me. Take minimal charisma to cast your spells and dump wisdom. Get strength and constitution up, and you should have enough dps to be worth the bother. If you manage to fit in offensive casing, healing, and melee congratulations... But it probably wrong work well.

I only skimmed your post due to the awkward formatting so if I misunderstood I apologize.

about EVASION..... as said above..... i actually totally missed that!! (i'll try to fill it in....and.... bye bye true res )
about stats.... so.... may be good to raise strenght and constitution with tomes??? (but... still... HOW/WHEN to get them??)


THANKS BOTH for your suggestion.......

[AylinIsAwesome]

i realized that the DR capstone is really a great loss but... i think at lv 20..... CURE LIGHT WOUND is not so useful! (even if free..... i think the damage dealt by hi levels mobs is much greater than the amout of hit point a FREE CURE LIGHT WOUND can fullfill! ..but... i may be wrong!!)

Here is CLW:



And here is CLW critting:




The power of the CLW capstone is directly proportional to how often your healing spells can crit I've been told, with more crits making it better. Note that I cannot crit at all with my healing spells unless I'm holding my greenblade.

EDIT: I know my friend's FvS (with a lot more crit enhancements than I took...) is able to keep himself up in Shavarath with just using that capstone.

[Loromir]

I think your search skill and disable device skill will be pretty low with this build. You may have a hard time Finding and diasabling traps at higher levels.

[DragonMageT]

Your build will be at the bottom of the DPS spectrum.
No TWF, Str only at 12 = low DPS

Your charisma doesn't need to be 14, drop 3/4 points there and put else where.
Char 11 + 2 tome + 6 item = 19

+1 tomes can be read at level 3, +2 tomes at level 7, you can read one for each stat.
I would skip +1's and just wait until level 7.

I just don't like the 1 level of rogue, you gain more by getting the capstone DR and free CLW.

Rez spells, I don't care them, use scrolls.

If you decide to go offensive caster FVS, then you want to increase you Wisdom.

Extend at level 18 is not needed and really not needed at all.
If anything take extend at low levels then swap out (with free feat swap) once you get to level 9 or 10.

[psycho74]

The power of the CLW capstone is directly proportional to how often your healing spells can crit I've been told, with more crits making it better.

...What is this "crit"? ....stand for "critical" but abbreviated?? (sorry but... i'm italian)


anyway.... here is the version 2.1 of my apollo..... made up trying to use all your suggestion!!! (even if it's growing in my mind the idea of a PURE lv 20 FvS....)

Let me know if now it can works......
This time i considered some tomes at lv7 (since..... it seems the best built all use them!!!) but.... since i don't know all the available equipment.....i didn't take them into consideration. I only KNOW that there are some +6 stats out there!! ...and if i'm sure it's pretty hard to find them! But I ialso know that the +3 or +4 stats items will not be so hard to get.... making my build stronger accordingly. (correct me if i'm wrong!)

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Apollo 2.1
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 318
Spell Points: 1776 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 14
Will: 18

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence         14                 16                   16
Wisdom               16                 21                   24
Charisma             12                 16                   17

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                  4                    4
Bluff                 1                  3                    3
Concentration         2                 24                   24
Diplomacy             1                  3                    3
Disable Device        6                 17                   20
Haggle                5                  8                    8
Heal                  3                 12                   12
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate            1                  3                    3
Jump                  6                 10                   10
Listen                7                 12                   12
Move Silently        -1                  1                    1
Open Lock             3                  8                   11
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                  3                    3
Search                6                 16                   17
Spot                  7                 12                   13
Swim                  6                 10                   10
Tumble                3                  5                    5
Use Magic Device      5                 20                   20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Cold Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host
Spell (1): Command
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (3): Protection From Energy


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (7): Destruction
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering II


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (8): Firestorm
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (8): Death Pact
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering III

[AylinIsAwesome]

Don't raise CHA with level-ups. It just isn't worth it.

From your feats, drop Mental Toughness. It looks as though you're wanting to go for offensive casting by raising your WIS? You'll need Heighten for that.

I would also strongly recommend taking Spell Penetration 3. Energy of the Scion and Wand/Scroll Mastery can afford to lose a little to make that happen.

[psycho74]

Don't raise CHA with level-ups. It just isn't worth it.

so...leave CHA to 12? but.... to cast divine spells...don't i need to have CHA => 10+spell lv ???
or...as already told... i'll rely on items to raise CHA from 12 to at least 19? (still... it means i'll need a +2 tome AND a +5 items!!! ...how can i be sure i'll found such an item????)

From your feats, drop Mental Toughness. It looks as though you're wanting to go for offensive casting by raising your WIS? You'll need Heighten for that.

I would also strongly recommend taking Spell Penetration 3. Energy of the Scion and Wand/Scroll Mastery can afford to lose a little to make that happen.

i see the point in that and...... i'll implement that!!!

AYLIN ...... thanks for all the advices. but... can you tell me what you means with "crit" ?? (see previous post)

(btw.... even if i'm italian and i though my english was really rusty.... it seems i manage to make myself clear!! ...that's already a victory for me!! )

[Sibellya]

The capstone free CLW is actually very good. It may only heal for about 10 points base but your Superior Potency (+50%), Life Magic Enhancements (+40%), Empower (+50%) and Maximise (+100%) make it heal for about 60-70 points total. When you get a critical heal ("crit") you will get over 100 points of healing. Combined with DR10 at level 20 it is possible for a pure FvS to keep themselves healed with just the capstone in many situations.

Evasion is nice to have but you need to have a high Reflex save (30+) to make it worthwhile. If you do build for Evasion then you should probably take your second Rogue level at 14 to allow you to get Blade Barrier as soon as possible (taking into account your first level is Rogue for the skill points).

If you are going to build for Evasion then two levels of Monk are probably better than Rogue. You get two extra feats to boost your dps at the cost of trap skills. You probably won't have to many problems with traps in most of the game as you can either run through them and heal whatever damage you take or just fly through them once you get your wings.

Building for Evasion with either Monk or Rogue levels really pushes you towards a melee build rather than an offensive caster build. If you want to go offensive caster (as mentioned in the OP) then go pure FvS.

[DrNuegebauer]

If you're looking for honest feedback: the build is a complete fail as it stands in the original post.

The revised build is also a total fail.

It's really a character which cannot do anything well at all. Of course it'll feel 'uberZ' for the first 5-10 levels, but once the game catches up with you, you'll realize that there's nothing your toon can do =(

The first thing you need to do is get past your desire to get the traps! There's simply no need - you can simply heal yourself back up after running through them - there's barely a need in the game to have a trap disarmed - and when there is such a need, you're normally in a party anyway - so let the 'real' rogue take care of it.

If you want to take some rogue for the UMD and opening of locks - sure, that's a bit of fun! Why not go for it? Try an elf or a WF for your race. I'd recommend the WF 18/2 with the rogue splash - you'll be able to fit in all the fun BB feats and still swing your greatsword and do some fairly handy DPS. If you plan on that path, just put 6 points into CHR, 10 into STR and CON and maybe 4 into INT and 2 into DEX - that'll give you 3 skill points per level (1 conc 2xUMD) and on your second rogue level (1st at 1 and maybe around 14 for the second?) take a few extra points in open locks (4-8 ranks total will be plenty).

As for Tomes: these can be bought on the AH for around 150-250k plat each. Yes, it might seem a lot now, but you'll start making a lot of cash eventually.

[psycho74]

ok... it seems this build really sucks, no matter how i modify it!!

so.... can anyone point me a good build for a PURE ovvensive FvS ? ..... and, IF it exists... a rogue/Fvs build like the one i intended to play?

or..... even better..... can anyone build it for me?? (i realize i'm really negate on it!!!)
Thanks


...can this one work?

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 2114 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 12
Will: 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom               16                 23                   26
Charisma             15                 17                   22

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance              -1                  0                    0
Bluff                 2                  6                    6
Concentration         5                 24                   24
Diplomacy             2                  8                   10
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                  7                    7
Heal                  3                 12                   14
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate            2                  6                    6
Jump                  3                 10                   10
Listen                3                  8                    8
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                1                  4                    4
Spot                  3                  8                    8
Swim                  3                 11                   11
Tumble               n/a                 1                    1
Use Magic Device      4                 17                   17

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (1): Command
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Restoration
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Improved Empowering II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Destruction
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (6): Cometfall
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (8): Death Pact
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration III


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (8): Firestorm
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (9): Implosion
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III

[AylinIsAwesome]

+5 and +6 items become pretty common in the later levels. Additionally, the capstone will grant you a stacking +2 CHA.


By crit I just mean critical.

[Inferno346]

In your revised build, why take evoc focuses and no heighten? Heighten is +3 to your BB dcs versus the +1 for each focus. I'd drop mental toughness, pick up heighten, drop charisma, and max out wisdom.

[AylinIsAwesome]

OP, drop your CHA. It should be no higher than 12 to start with. You can even get away with 10 or less.

But the points in WIS instead. 18 to start would be best if you can get it.

[psycho74]

In your revised build, why take evoc focuses and no heighten? Heighten is +3 to your BB dcs versus the +1 for each focus. I'd drop mental toughness, pick up heighten, drop charisma, and max out wisdom.

talikng about the 2 rogue/18 FvS or... the pure FvS?

[psycho74]

OP, drop your CHA. It should be no higher than 12 to start with. You can even get away with 10 or less.

But the points in WIS instead. 18 to start would be best if you can get it.

but.... FvS don't need to have CHA at a 10+spell level to... cast a spell??
besides... in the SECOND version (the 2 rogue/18 FvS) i have actually lowered to 12 the CHA.

[Consumer]

but.... FvS don't need to have CHA at a 10+spell level to... cast a spell??
besides... in the SECOND version (the 2 rogue/18 FvS) i have actually lowered to 12 the CHA.

Items, tomes and enhancements all count towards that number.

[AylinIsAwesome]

but.... FvS don't need to have CHA at a 10+spell level to... cast a spell??

12 Base + 2 Tome + 6 Item = 20

besides... in the SECOND version (the 2 rogue/18 FvS) i have actually lowered to 12 the CHA.

I'm looking at the last version you posted.