radiant servant

[Riorik]

That doesnt even make sense.... Yugoloth have 3000 mana? Huh? Empower Spell doesnt even Effect the HEAL or MASS Heal Spells.

/fail.

Awww, come on Impaqt. By how the posts are written, my first guess is english isn't the OP's first language...you're picking at the text when the intent was obvious.

He's referring to using Yugoloth potions to get his stat higher to get more spell points.

I'd call *that* a fail.

On another note. I do completely agree with you (Impaqt). Especially with regenerating turn's...over a long term, Radiant Servants have significant advantages. Even their burst healing options are at least equal...and it's not like there aren't readily available options to extend spell points with potions.

That's a point I hadn't seen up to here...yet...if you really get to the point where you're out of spell points before a shrine (for starters you're doing something wrong)...the ready availability of potions makes those maximum spell point pools far less relevant than they were in 2006/2007.

[Riorik]

wait new update. It's my past equip. Now have epic graves, night clock, staff petitioneer.
I play a lot of time every day :P

I apologize if I seem too rude, I just wrote my opinion: in epic quest I think the aura is almost useless.. maybe it's a wrong impression and I can not quantify the contribute that aura do.

(sorry for bad english ^^)

Wait a sec...you mean past equipment from earlier today?

I'm getting the impression you've now indirectly admitted to violating forum rules.

[Impaqt]

er... not to agree with the other guy, who appears to be misinformed... but one of our guild FvS builds sports 3k mana. He isn't usleless by any means

I totally agree with you that the OP likely needs to review his build though. Clerics currently are at an advantage over FvS builds with the PRE in place imo.

Show me the build and I'll show you how to make it better.

Its not about "Being useless". I guess some folks are perfectly content to be nanny's . Its about being optimal.

[Thriand]

He's referring to using Yugoloth potions to get his stat higher to get more spell points.

I don't really see how that makes a difference, taking that into account it still doesn't make the original context make any sense, a yugoloth potion will only net you 2 points of a stat or 29 spell points for a pure build at level 20.

I'm still kind of confused by it.

The best I can make out is that he meant to say

"My cleric has 2200 mana, and my favored soul has 3000 mana using yugoloth pots"

Not that yugoloth pots should have any bearing on the conversation at all since both classes get the same +29 spell points (assuming pure level 20s) from them, when used

[r3dl4nce]

Awww, come on Impaqt. By how the posts are written, my first guess is english isn't the OP's first language...you're picking at the text when the intent was obvious.

He's referring to using Yugoloth potions to get his stat higher to get more spell points.

No, havokiano is referring to one of his guild mates, nick: Yugoloth (myddo: http://my.ddo.com/character/cannith/yugoloth/ ) and he have not 3000+ sp, it's 2946

[TigrisMorte]

radiant servant is useless in epic quest or raid epic.
Why in energy burst work maximize, but in radiant servant don't work?

Think I reincarnate in favored soul. there is so much difference between 2000mana and 3000mana

because, even in epic the PUGers won't top themselves off.

[taurean430]

Show me the build and I'll show you how to make it better.

Its not about "Being useless". I guess some folks are perfectly content to be nanny's . Its about being optimal.

It's not one of my builds so I can't take you up on that. Nonetheless, it's an offensive caster build. He does quite well with actually.

I have one of these myself, but will be changing the build because I don't care for my option with it in epics.

[Phidius]

this Is The Best Taunt Of All Time. There Simply Is No Comeback For It. To Be On The Receiving End Is To Be Instantly Defeated.

Inferno!!!!!

[phalaeo]

a good cleric can get over 2k spell points just like a good FvS can get over 3k ...

a cleric who wants to get over 2k spell points can get over 2k spell points just like a good FvS can get over 3k ...

2k SP does not a good Cleric make....

[Mister_Peace]

ahahahahahah loooooooooooooool
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6458/58689314.jpg
you are boring. And you rosik a lot. bye.

Sigged.

[havokiano]

you are saying that a cleric with 2200 mana have equal opportunity to a Favored soul of 2850 mana.
650 mana is comparable to 10 energy burst? incredible. I SAID IN EPIC QUEST OR EPIC RAID. No raid like shroud. Bye.

@riorik: no problem, I leave this section. It's not possible that the first thing that comes to answer is "you not know how to play" Too many bullies in this forum. the climate is not good, have a nice day.

edit for redlance: loool in oob epic I use only 1 shrine, is an epic quest too easy to compare the utility of radiant servant.

[r3dl4nce]

you are saying that a cleric with 2200 mana have equal opportunity to a Favored soul of 2850 mana.
650 mana is comparable to 10 energy burst? incredible. I SAID IN EPIC QUEST OR EPIC RAID. No raid like shroud.

My RS 18/2 Clonk heals Epic Offering of Blood daily while fighting with the melees with his under-geared 1776 SP point pool. I'd hardly call it useless in Epic, a "real" cleric should find it even more useful.

uhm.....

[Mighty_Bozo]

Well, I got a 1500 sp 17/3 Clonk whom I used to solo heal Von 6 Epic, Healed through Chronoscope (From where i got 3 pieces of the gr8r abishai) and also run through all other epic content and usually I don't chugg one single pot. Now, how on earth can someone pull out something like that? Uhm... bursts =P
I do tend to go melee all the time, help beating up the held/stunned mobs and throw heals using primarily the bursts and auras. So, I can tell u that i often see fvs no being able to heal what I heal, and they do have a lot of sp difference opposite to me.
One other thing. Don't go saying something is bad just because you can't use it, because when someone shows that he/she can use it just fine, will make you look incompetent.

[NinetyNineTails]

Personally, I'm facepalming over TRing Avryl into an FvS when clerics didn't get anything to make up for FvSes being awesome, quitting for a year, and coming back to the RS PRE being awesome.

I keep telling myself that the FvS PREs are going to be awesome, too.

I really hope the FvS PREs are awesome. *crosses fingers*

[Dylvish]

Havokiano, you come to the forum, slam a class, say a PRE / aura is useless. When people disagree with you, and give reasons / defend their view, you insult them (well namely you insult Impaqt a few times). When EVERYONE on 4 pages disagrees with you, the response is to throw another insult, then say 'its too hot in here' and leave..... You are proclaiming yourself to be a Troll at this point by that action. Luck with that.

[Forzah]

It's useful in almost any epic where you can stay in range of the melee. I only occassionally have to spot heal. I'd go as far as saying radiant servant aura puts clerics well ahead of FvS in healing efficiency.

[R0cksteady]

It's useful in almost any epic where you can stay in range of the melee. I only occassionally have to spot heal. I'd go as far as saying radiant servant aura puts clerics well ahead of FvS in healing efficiency.

It really does. I play a Melee FvS and a cleric (With some offensive casting ability, decent crowd control) and as far as healing, the cleric is better. But in epics where my clerics DCs are only around 37 which isn't quite enough, I find the classes to be WELL balanced.

[Ganak]

I completely disagree with the OP. Thank you.

[ghettoGenius]

you are boring. And you rosik a lot. bye.

Still laughing at this one.

[jkm]

Show me the build and I'll show you how to make it better.

Its not about "Being useless". I guess some folks are perfectly content to be nanny's . Its about being optimal.

http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/spiryl/

here you go. there is another +2 wisdom/con somewhere if i could ever pull the right ToD rings. also note that i am going to do a 3rd TR at some point, so i haven't used anything higher than a +2 tome.