Thought this was funny.

[der_kluge]

So, over the weekend, I TR'd my cleric into Favored Soul. I worked hard at unlocking the 2500 favor for it, and while FvS does not gain much by having past life cleric, that's what I did.

I have a friend whom I play with, and he's not been playing the game very long, and his highest level character is a 12th level paladin. He also has a 4th level paladin. He has a friend that he plays with sometimes who has a 2nd level fighter.

Couple of weeks ago, my friend was on playing his lower level paladin with his friend who was on, and I decided that I wanted to play with them, but my lowest level character was my level 12 rogue. No problem - I've got an empty slot; I'll roll up a veteran 32-pt build cleric since they needed a healer. At the time, I wasn't yet ready to TR.

I made her an elf just for the hell of it (mostly for the eye candy). I maxed her wisdom, made her charisma fairly decent, and with a 32 point build, made a very solid overall cleric. I also made her a veteran.


Anyway, fast forward to my TR'd Favored Soul. I worked on her this weekend, and managed to get her to 4th level. After reading a lot of the threads here, I decided to go with a minimum of charisma (10), and actually had to go buy a +1 charisma trinket at the AH right out of the gate just to be able to cast spells. I went TWF with scimitars, and even took OTWF at 3rd so I could dual-wield scimitars. Good times.

I logged on with my cleric last night just to check her mail, and noticed that she had 325 mana.

My favored soul? 320!

I suspect that has everything to do with my paltry charisma, and my cleric's maxed out wisdom. My cleric might also have a minor +power item on as well, which my Favored Soul does not have.

Anyway.. I just got a huge laugh out of that. I suspect if I leveled the cleric up to 5, and then FvS up to 5, the FvS would end up passing the cleric slightly.

[Diarden]

Yes, you're on the right track.

I get in so many arguments with people who state that "Fvs's are charisma based, so max that out!" and I laugh. Charisma based may be the key for your sp pool to be high, but your spell DC is based off wisdom, just like a cleric. A charisma of 19 will suffice at level 20, so I usually shoot for around 20 when items and enhancements are all said and done.

Making a melee FvS is tough with stat points, however, and very gear intensive. There are some decent builds out there I'm sure, but to truly be a "jack of all trades" its going to take a ton of time, gear and money to be efficient.

If you ever need advice, shoot me a tell.

[Impaqt]

What am I missing?

At low levels the SpellPoints are close. But a basic Power item would put you ahead of your cleric and you already realize that 10CHR = no Bonus SpellPoints and on your Cleric I would asssume your sitting at a 20 by now..

Base at level 4 is 250 for a FvS vs. 125 for a Cleric (+80 magical training on both)

so you should have 330 on your FvS. Not sure where you lost 10 Spell Points.

cleric
205 + 65 WIsdom Bonus = 270

not sure where the extra 55 spell Points are coming from

[der_kluge]

What am I missing?

At low levels the SpellPoints are close. But a basic Power item would put you ahead of your cleric and you already realize that 10CHR = no Bonus SpellPoints and on your Cleric I would asssume your sitting at a 20 by now..

Base at level 4 is 250 for a FvS vs. 125 for a Cleric (+80 magical training on both)

so you should have 330 on your FvS. Not sure where you lost 10 Spell Points.

cleric
205 + 65 WIsdom Bonus = 270

not sure where the extra 55 spell Points are coming from

I don't think it's possible to *lose* spell points. So, maybe your numbers aren't right? I'm pretty sure I'm remembering the numbers correctly.

The cleric might have taken Mental toughness as a feat. That might explain some of the gap. And yes, she probably has a 20 wisdom. I can't recall if she's wearing any +sp items. I think she might be wearing the Korthos Devoted set. That might give her another +20 mana. I can't recall.

edit: Actually, now that I think about it, my favored soul's 320 mana, might have been from when she was level 3. Because I remember commenting on it when I Was running the depths chain with some friends, and upon completion of that chain, she made level 4.

So yea, I could be wrong.