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    Thumbs down Armor Kit Pricing

    I knew it wouldn't last. Really, I did. Preview kits for 1 TP, no problem. It'll only add up if you buy a lot of them at one time. 15 TP for a permanent version was nice to test with, and I specify "test" because that's just what it was, a test.

    Undoubtedly prices were going to go up, but an increase of 13 times the original?!

    Go check it out. I'll wait here...
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    Ok, back? Good. See what I mean? The permanent kits are now 195 TP!
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    ONE HUNDRED, NINETY-FIVE POINTS.

    I seriously hope that those prices don't make it to live. I'll repeat myself again, I knew to expect a price increase when armor kits go live, but this seems overly excessive. 50 or 75 TP would be much more reasonable, and even 100 TP would be close, but come on, Turbine. Not everyone has access to Mommy's or Daddy's credit card or the time to farm for favor across servers. Especially if the TP earned from favor farming is put to something more useful, like Adventure Packs.

    If nothing more is done regarding Armor Kits, at least reconsider pricing once Update 8 goes live.

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    And you have the option of purchasing a separate kit for each suit of armor.
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    i say 50tp for the permanent version is a fair price
    anything over 100 is just way over priced for a gimmick
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    BUMMERZ!!!!
    I was excited about the new armors until I read this.
    195tp??? No thank you!
    I am like most DDO'ers and have several characters that I would LOVE put add the skins to. But for that price, I will continue to look like the masses in my DT armor.
    From a "sales and customer service" perspective, bad move... Too bad there will not be anyone from the marketing department reading this string. If for some reason they do, I would dearly love to discuss this with them...

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    You need to expect something that costs much more to develop than hairstyles and colors to cost more to get.

    It probably takes only a couple of person days to add a hairstyle perhaps a development week with art and programming and test. If turbine makes a quarter from each 50-75 pt hairstyle, they then need to sell 10,000 of that style before they make up the investment.

    At 200 points that are possibly making 75 cents maybe only 50 cents maybe a dollar. BUt there is probably at least 3-4 person months that they have to recoup for adding the new system. They are probably needing to sell 30-50k of these.

    I don't know if pricing it lower and needing to sell twice as many is going to give them the ROI that they need.


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    I'll pay, but I need to be able to preview it. I burned way too many dollars on hairstyles with bugged bald spots that hair colors looked nothing like the description I -love- the idea of cosmetic additions to DDO, but I want control of my customization, not blind luck.
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    this is fairly typical, it will come in priced a little high and then go on special price on a fairly regular basis
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    Ya wouldnt worry... sales will probably be around 150TP. Not too high imho. It just aint something you put on every armor youhave... just on the ones that matter (and are ugly).

    But yeah PRIEVIEW IS A MUST!!!!! chop chop back to the drawing boards and get that figured out. It will also increase sales when people can see how nice their chars could look.

    Jee people will be hanging out in that store looking at armors all day and will be much more inclined to spend the money after dreaming for a few hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredguyver View Post

    Ok, back? Good. See what I mean? The permanent kits are now 195 TP!
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    ONE HUNDRED, NINETY-FIVE POINTS.
    That seems reasonable to me. It is inline with the current costs of cosmetic hats and what not.

    EDIT: It should be noted that I think charging people to preview that armor kit is stupid. Preview should be free.
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    Who buys anything from the Turbine Store at full price?

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    I won't need to buy the kits to look unique. Since everybody will be getting them, I will be the only one that looks different from all the rest. AND IT'S FREE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robi3.0 View Post
    That seems reasonable to me. It is inline with the current costs of cosmetic hats and what not.

    EDIT: It should be noted that I think charging people to preview that armor kit is stupid. Preview should be free.
    At least they aren't charging you to try it at full price, and then selling you for more TP a "reversion" kit.

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    I approve of the armor kits pricing policy.
    This way you can spend some cash and actually look unique as opposed to wearing the same suit as the gajillion f2p folks.
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    Don't forget they will end up dropping in chests & quest rewards as random loot as well. They are only debuting them in the store unless I read the release notes wrong. So like the mummy pots that drop now. hopefully they will not bind to char/account when they drop though, as that could create a secondary AH market - however even that I suspect won't really take off unless there's a way to preview the skin before bid/submit...

    For now this is just not enough fine control over the skins or any free preview facility to make it worth me ever bothering with the fixed selection on offer unless one dropped for me in a chest. Which is a shame cos I was really looking forward to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    I won't need to buy the kits to look unique. Since everybody will be getting them, I will be the only one that looks different from all the rest. AND IT'S FREE!
    agreed. completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    I won't need to buy the kits to look unique. Since everybody will be getting them, I will be the only one that looks different from all the rest. AND IT'S FREE!
    LOL, good point
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    All I can say is.....$$$
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    I always thought the 35tp was kinda low, but could easily see them sell between 50 to 100 Tp.
    Then it hit me If it's less then 100TP, it an easy Favor grind to reach, no $'s would have been made from it. The 195 would be a very good price, it only hurts those that are 100% free. It's right on target for the VIP and regular Premium spending Players.
    Also low enough after some time even the Free players can get.

    yeah at first, I was shocked, and was thinking " man that's just too much now" but I was thinking as a 100% free player, that still needs to save for adventure packs.
    After a day or two, I was thinking right, like I when I used to have $ to spend on RL non-essentials

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunklezhan View Post
    Don't forget they will end up dropping in chests & quest rewards as random loot as well. They are only debuting them in the store unless I read the release notes wrong. So like the mummy pots that drop now. hopefully they will not bind to char/account when they drop though, as that could create a secondary AH market
    From http://www.ddo.com/ddogameinfo/46-ga...-8-coming-soon
    Cosmetic armor can be found in treasure, bid on at the auction house, or purchased in the DDO Store.
    So, it won't be bound from chests. I would think it will be bound from DDO Store, since pretty much everything from there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krag View Post
    I approve of the armor kits pricing policy.
    This way you can spend some cash and actually look unique as opposed to wearing the same suit as the gajillion f2p folks.
    Or rather that way everyone can buy the same few popular looks and even more people will look the same....

    Think about it at least with different armors everyone has a different random look for awhile and then with named items everyone tends to have a few different sets as well....now alot of people may look the same for a long time.

    and dont even tell me that people with dragontouched are going to look too much different than they do now

    but it is still progress I suppose, just not what people wanted.

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