Epic Robe of Shadow request

[Saravis]

Can the devs please kindly remove the Boon of Undead from the Epic Robe of Shadow. Its already annoying as it is that Wizards have 2 PrEs and now you got to mock the sorcs even more by tossing an ehancement on a robe that Sorcs not only NOT benefit from, but instead take damage. Its not like you Pale Masters will be missing out its only healing for like 1-5 pts, you get all the other nice benefits so please do without the Boon thing.
-thanks

[Xenus_Paradox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

[Saravis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Yeah! Quality Rebuttal right there!
Care to explain? Or are you a Palemaster (self-centered bunch aren't ya)

[Razcar]

It's an item specifically geared towards a specific PrE. Others can use the item too, but with a small "curse" attached to it. It's not unheard of in DDO (and even more common in D&D) that magic items can have negative side effects.

And no, I don't play a Pale Master myself (can't stand the green noisy bubble).

[Junts]

[Deaths_ward]

Oh goodness, +1 for the lulz, and beating me to it.

[Tobril]

Can the devs please kindly remove the Boon of Undead from the Epic Robe of Shadow. Its already annoying as it is that Wizards have 2 PrEs and now you got to mock the sorcs even more by tossing an ehancement on a robe that Sorcs not only NOT benefit from, but instead take damage. Its not like you Pale Masters will be missing out its only healing for like 1-5 pts, you get all the other nice benefits so please do without the Boon thing.
-thanks

Perhaps because sorcs don't benefit from certain items they should all be nerfed?

Your day will come when wizards complain about sorcs finally getting a +1000% spell damage PrE or somesuch.

[Aashrym]

Sorc get double spell point bonus from a lot of items. Having the boon for 1 wiz pre doesn't sound so bad to me in comparison.

[Jay203]

stop getting hit

[LupusVai]

Please don't remove it. Those 6-9 hps healed i get on my PM each time i'm hit by a mob makes me a happy bunny. The whole robe is designed with PM's in mind which is nice as they are they are subpar to the archmage.

As for sorcs, well you get far more SP's, quicker casting and do more damage. Which was no doubt why you chose the class. Sorcs always were far over powered compaired to wizard, now with the PRE's the wizard is at least a good second option. No doubt when sorc PRE's come out sorc will go back to being far far better than the wizard. Be patient you'll be back to top dog and flavour of the month again. Then all the wizards can complain about being less than equal again. ;-)

Oh of note, if you aren't able to farm a pair of the goggles from TR I think IRc that the teir 3 cloak has deathblock on it as you are capable of farming the ingredients to make an epic robe the teir 3 cloak shouldn't be too difficult.

[Saravis]

Please don't remove it. Those 6-9 hps healed i get on my PM each time i'm hit by a mob makes me a happy bunny. The whole robe is designed with PM's in mind which is nice as they are they are subpar to the archmage.

As for sorcs, well you get far more SP's, quicker casting and do more damage. Which was no doubt why you chose the class. Sorcs always were far over powered compaired to wizard, now with the PRE's the wizard is at least a good second option. No doubt when sorc PRE's come out sorc will go back to being far far better than the wizard. Be patient you'll be back to top dog and flavour of the month again. Then all the wizards can complain about being less than equal again. ;-)

Oh of note, if you aren't able to farm a pair of the goggles from TR I think IRc that the teir 3 cloak has deathblock on it as you are capable of farming the ingredients to make an epic robe the teir 3 cloak shouldn't be too difficult.

Subpar? I've run with some PMs and they can do some wicked stuff. A lot of times outlasting Sorcs in the damage department as well as self healing capabilities.

I keep hearing about this whole thing of Sorcs previously being OPed compared to Wizzies, but I'm just not seeing it. Wizzies are DC CC base. Sorcs are damage base. So in this regard its obvious that Wizzies should have more DC, more spells available, and don't need that much SP. Sorcs should have high SP, faster casting, and more damage because that all benefits a firepower based class. They were defined from the get go, so I have a hard time buying that the PrEs "balanced" the classes.

Oh and the Sorc PrE better be frickin worth it, if and WHEN it comes.

[ProdigalGuru]

Subpar? I've run with some PMs and they can do some wicked stuff. A lot of times outlasting Sorcs in the damage department as well as self healing capabilities.

I keep hearing about this whole thing of Sorcs previously being OPed compared to Wizzies, but I'm just not seeing it. Wizzies are DC CC base. Sorcs are damage base. So in this regard its obvious that Wizzies should have more DC, more spells available, and don't need that much SP. Sorcs should have high SP, faster casting, and more damage because that all benefits a firepower based class. They were defined from the get go, so I have a hard time buying that the PrEs "balanced" the classes.

Oh and the Sorc PrE better be frickin worth it, if and WHEN it comes.

This post made me giggle

[voodoogroves]

DC based, wizards are on top.

Direct-damage output, Sorcs. They do need some PRE love though.



Please to not be taking away my lovely epic docent of shadow. That and CO and Torc and Demon Consort bracers = much fun.

[Saravis]

DC based, wizards are on top.

Direct-damage output, Sorcs. They do need some PRE love though.

Thats the thing though, I'm being out lasted in damage capability by Pale Masters, so while I may be able to put out more damage faster, I don't have lasting power, which doesn't make sense to me.

Please to not be taking away my lovely epic docent of shadow. That and CO and Torc and Demon Consort bracers = much fun.

I'm not asking them to take the stupid thing away, I'm just asking them to remove the boon effect, give us Sorcs a little love too please.

Heck, here's an idea to make everyone happy, instead of removing the boon, make it a permanent lasting clickie, like the Phiarlan Pendant, remove the nightshield clickie it doesn't really do anything useful. That would even benefit non-PaleMaster Wizard builds as well. Everybody is happy.

[Oran_Lathor]

No.

Also, do you even have the robe. Granted I rarely run outside of lich, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't even hurt you when you're fleshy.

edit: okay, it does hurt you. Seems to hit for 1 almost every time.

[KillEveryone]

Thats the thing though, I'm being out lasted in damage capability by Pale Masters, so while I may be able to put out more damage faster, I don't have lasting power, which doesn't make sense to me.


I'm not asking them to take the stupid thing away, I'm just asking them to remove the boon effect, give us Sorcs a little love too please.

Heck, here's an idea to make everyone happy, instead of removing the boon, make it a permanent lasting clickie, like the Phiarlan Pendant, remove the nightshield clickie it doesn't really do anything useful. That would even benefit non-PaleMaster Wizard builds as well. Everybody is happy.

I also use that nightshield clickie. I don't bother loading that spell on my Archmage Wiz because I have the robe and a few sets of Visor of the Flesh Render so I don't have to get hit with that boon effect.

Changing the robe is not going to make everyone happy.

[Lorz]

Okay;
1) What the heck is ITP?
2) Kindly refrain from immature posting

-thanks

Item 1 is IT...as in the P was a mistype

Item 2 ok he will...but you must promise to LEARN TO PLAY.

/That is all.