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  1. #1
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    Default Let me know what you think bout this :)

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    Jahoachy 
    Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
    (18 Fighter \ 2 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 442
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    23
    Dexterity            16                    16
    Constitution         16                    18
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom               14                    15
    Charisma              6                     6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                     7
    Bluff                -2                     1
    Concentration         7                    12
    Diplomacy            -2                     1
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -1
    Heal                  2                     2
    Hide                  3                     3
    Intimidate           -2                     1
    Jump                  7                    29
    Listen                2                     2
    Move Silently         3                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                     1
    Spot                  2                     2
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                7                     8
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Dwarven Goblinoid Hatred I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Poison Resistance I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization I
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Mobility I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization II
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder
    Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery III
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I

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    Why?

    what's the point of fighting in monk stance when you can't really use your ki in a beneficial way?

    All you're doing is generating a 2.5% chance to doublestrike - but by splashing monk you're giving up a 10% bonus to attack speed and double strike from the capstone....
    And as an additional bonus you're using a crappy weapon!!!

    Go to at least 3 monk if you plan on doing this (healing Ki). Or maybe to 6 to get Ninja Spy? Oh, but then you get shortswords which are only marginally worse than longswords, so you could save 2 feats.
    And by that stage your fists are far superior for DPS anyhow.

    And finally, Dwarf has very little synergy with longswords!


    Sorry man - but I don't think it's any good...

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    Jahoachy 
    Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
    (18 Fighter \ 2 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 382
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity            16                    16
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence          6                     6
    Wisdom               14                    15
    Charisma              6                     6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                     3
    Bluff                -2                     1
    Concentration         6                    10
    Diplomacy            -2                     1
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -1
    Heal                  2                     2
    Hide                  3                     3
    Intimidate           -2                     1
    Jump                  8                    32
    Listen                2                     2
    Move Silently         3                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -2                    -2
    Search               -2                    -2
    Spot                  2                     2
    Swim                  4                     8
    Tumble                n/a                   5
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump I
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
    Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization I
    Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Mobility I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost IV
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization II
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery III
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
    Last edited by RG_Valdearg; 11-22-2010 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNuegebauer View Post
    All you're doing is generating a 2.5% chance to doublestrike - but by splashing monk you're giving up a 10% bonus to attack speed and double strike from the capstone....
    Fighter capstone provides 10% doublestrike chance with melee weapons and +10% Competence bonus (so it stacks with Haste IIRC) to attack speed with ranged weapons. The way you stated it, it looks like it provides both bonuses to melee weapons. It's not that awesome.

    I agree with your basic point, though. I don't really see much point in monk 2 WSS-based builds apart from flavor.

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    Hrrrrmmmm.

    I would suggest something more along the lines of Fighter 12/Monk 6/ Something else 2. (Likely Paladin for saves, possibly even paladin 3 with monk 5 or something so you can use healing Ki, but also have the paladin fear immunity.) Oh, and definitely not dwarf, just doesn't work for Long Swords as well as other races might.
    "At the end of all things, let it not be said that I didn't pull the switch that killed us all."

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Fighter capstone provides 10% doublestrike chance with melee weapons and +10% Competence bonus (so it stacks with Haste IIRC) to attack speed with ranged weapons. The way you stated it, it looks like it provides both bonuses to melee weapons. It's not that awesome.

    I agree with your basic point, though. I don't really see much point in monk 2 WSS-based builds apart from flavor.
    It's THAT awesome compared to only 2.5% doublestrike and using longswords!!

    I don't think any WSS build is good for anything except flavor (I've been there once and will never go back!) As soon as you take more monk levels you're better off with the fists...

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    when should i take each lvl if i do 12 Ftr 3 paly and 5 monk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG_Valdearg View Post
    when should i take each lvl if i do 12 Ftr 3 paly and 5 monk?
    That's a good question, all I can say is that you'll want Pally3, and Monk3 by level 12
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    Alright ill prolly fix the build and repost it here later thx

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