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**RG_Valdearg** · 11-22-2010, 05:35 PM

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Jahoachy 
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(18 Fighter \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 442
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 12
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    16
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    15
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     7
Bluff                -2                     1
Concentration         7                    12
Diplomacy            -2                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                  2                     2
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate           -2                     1
Jump                  7                    29
Listen                2                     2
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  2                     2
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                7                     8
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Goblinoid Hatred I
Enhancement: Dwarven Poison Resistance I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization I


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Mobility I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization II


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I

**DrNuegebauer** · 11-22-2010, 05:44 PM

Why?

what's the point of fighting in monk stance when you can't really use your ki in a beneficial way?

All you're doing is generating a 2.5% chance to doublestrike - but by splashing monk you're giving up a 10% bonus to attack speed and double strike from the capstone....
And as an additional bonus you're using a crappy weapon!!!

Go to at least 3 monk if you plan on doing this (healing Ki). Or maybe to 6 to get Ninja Spy? Oh, but then you get shortswords which are only marginally worse than longswords, so you could save 2 feats.
And by that stage your fists are far superior for DPS anyhow.

And finally, Dwarf has very little synergy with longswords!

Sorry man - but I don't think it's any good...

**RG_Valdearg** · 11-22-2010, 07:42 PM

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Jahoachy 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(18 Fighter \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 382
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 12
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    27
Dexterity            16                    16
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          6                     6
Wisdom               14                    15
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     3
Bluff                -2                     1
Concentration         6                    10
Diplomacy            -2                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                  2                     2
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate           -2                     1
Jump                  8                    32
Listen                2                     2
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -2                    -2
Search               -2                    -2
Spot                  2                     2
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                n/a                   5
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Mobility I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost IV


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Longsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I

**unbongwah** · 11-22-2010, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by DrNuegebauer

All you're doing is generating a 2.5% chance to doublestrike - but by splashing monk you're giving up a 10% bonus to attack speed and double strike from the capstone....

Fighter capstone provides 10% doublestrike chance with melee weapons and +10% Competence bonus (so it stacks with Haste IIRC) to attack speed with ranged weapons. The way you stated it, it looks like it provides both bonuses to melee weapons. It's not that awesome.

I agree with your basic point, though. I don't really see much point in monk 2 WSS-based builds apart from flavor.

**Deaths_ward** · 11-22-2010, 09:48 PM

Hrrrrmmmm.

I would suggest something more along the lines of Fighter 12/Monk 6/ Something else 2. (Likely Paladin for saves, possibly even paladin 3 with monk 5 or something so you can use healing Ki, but also have the paladin fear immunity.) Oh, and definitely not dwarf, just doesn't work for Long Swords as well as other races might.

**DrNuegebauer** · 11-22-2010, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Fighter capstone provides 10% doublestrike chance with melee weapons and +10% Competence bonus (so it stacks with Haste IIRC) to attack speed with ranged weapons. The way you stated it, it looks like it provides both bonuses to melee weapons. It's not that awesome.

I agree with your basic point, though. I don't really see much point in monk 2 WSS-based builds apart from flavor.

It's THAT awesome compared to only 2.5% doublestrike and using longswords!!

I don't think any WSS build is good for anything except flavor (I've been there once and will never go back!) As soon as you take more monk levels you're better off with the fists...

**RG_Valdearg** · 11-23-2010, 03:19 PM

when should i take each lvl if i do 12 Ftr 3 paly and 5 monk?

**Deaths_ward** · 11-23-2010, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by RG_Valdearg

when should i take each lvl if i do 12 Ftr 3 paly and 5 monk?

That's a good question, all I can say is that you'll want Pally3, and Monk3 by level 12

**RG_Valdearg** · 11-24-2010, 09:18 AM

Alright ill prolly fix the build and repost it here later thx

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