Drow Stat Enhancements

[Thriand]

Drow can start on level 1 with a dexterity, intelligence or charisma score of 20 if they are build that way (because of the +2 racial adjustment at character creation). According to class selection the primary ability scores can be pushed by up to +3 via enhancements.

If your suggestion would be implemented that could result in a drow wizard with 20 (starting intelligence) + 2 (racial enhancements) + 3 (class enhancements). I am not considering gear, tomes and levelup increases though. That would leave the drow with an advantage of +4 to intelligence in comparison to other races (which translates to an overall +2 to DCs). And the only disadvantage would be just -20 hp for missing two points of constitution (at level 20). A big part of the hp pool nowadays comes from equipment and the toughness feat and enhancements. What incentives would one have to play bards and sorcerors of other races (when it comes down to spell power)?

Actually drow only have +1 higher cha or int, than an equivalent human who spent 2 AP. The problem is that in D&D since there is no difference's between a 46 and 47 stat a human can currently have the EXACT same DC as a drow, only with better enhancements, higher constitution, and a bonus feat.

This change would help to balance the races rather than make things worse.

[Phemt81]

Also we still missing some represents from original D&D Drow (and probably never get them):

• Poisoning Ranged Weapon (can be implement like AA imbues which work for all ranged weapon and stack with AA imbues)
• Darkvision (Constant True Seeing on level 15, can mimic this ability)
• SR: 11 + 1/level (in U8 we get 10 + 1/ level)
• SL-a 1/rest (most are impossible to implement, but if so, give Drow some other: Obscuring Mist, Flaming Sphere and Snare)

You forgot the penalty when exposed to daylight...

What incentives would one have to play bards and sorcerors of other races (when it comes down to spell power)?

The fact they are not usable from the start by non-vip players?

I can't see a real menace for game' s balance Diamabel, it' s just how it already works for all other races.
Also looks like you all are not figuring out that drows are INTENDED to best other races (until they created the fantastic warforged, that is...).

[revenftbm]

I agree with whatever it is you people are saying even though I got bored halfway through the first post.

[Tsuarok]

Just make them 32 pts like everyone else.

Horks and WF get net -2 to ability scores, but get great enhancements and/or immunities to make up for it.

Drow get net +0 (32-28 = 4), and **** enhancements. give them their bonus points.

This way they wouldn't be able to concentrate their points all in one casting stat (i.e., same DC endgame) but would be able to benefit from higher other stats.

And they would be a little less gimp. A little.

[Chette]

Agreed, right now there is absolutely no reason to play a drow. Human's get +1 to any stat through enhancements, so you can get your charisma or int within 1 of a drow, without the loss of con, and frequently useless increase to dex, plus the extra feat and skill points. With enhancement bonuses to either int or charisma there would be reason to make a drow caster.

[Oran_Lathor]

/signed

Would love to see Eladrin or someone post as to whether or not this is at all likely. I can actually see them doing it nowadays.

[Aelonwy]

I doubt the dev's would ever unlock Drow to 32pt builds from the start, but what if they allowed you to TR to 30pt, then TR to 32pt and cap there?

[Vellrad]

I doubt the dev's would ever unlock Drow to 32pt builds from the start, but what if they allowed you to TR to 30pt, then TR to 32pt and cap there?

They've done it.

[kafrielveddicus]

How about allowing any race that has an original plus(at creation) in a stat to boost that stat via enhancements, in other words if that race has an advantage originally in that stat then they can enhance that stat!!! Except of course any race that doesnt get a plus(like humans) can choose which stat to raise.

My favourite rule of thumb -> KISS

Keep it Simple Sam!!!!

[Aelonwy]

In all this time of discussing and reading about true reincarnation not one person before has corrected my misunderstanding of TR+Drow. Thank you.