How to get to 1st base. (spoilers)

[MeToo]

Go right.

There seems to be some confusion on Sarlona in the Plane of Night (VON6) about the conventional assignment of labels to the pillar "bases". It's set up roughly like a baseball field and it's generally accepted that you zone in at home plate with Velah over "the mound" and 2nd base being the far pillar with the air mephits. That much, most agree on. It's often though, that they get 1st and 3rd base mixed up.

Maybe not everyone plays baseball but those that do know that you move around the base path counterclockwise. 1st base is to your right when looking at the pitcher from home plate. It has fire elementals. 3rd base will be directly opposite that with ice flensers.

When raid leaders are giving orders, someone invariably gets confused between 1st and 3rd. Maybe they're confused by starting in the north of the map facing south. Maybe they're used to things being ordered clockwise. Maybe that's just the convention for some groups because "that's how we've always done it" syndrome. I don't know.

The most recent comment went something like, "Oh, of course that's how they are on normal. I thought you meant Epic." Why would they be labeled any differently on different difficulties!?

Can you shed some light on this for me. I don't really care strongly one way or another but I'd like to all be on the same page or it doesn't make sense to refer to them as "bases" at all. Just saying "fire base" or "cold base" or "air mephit base" might be clearer.

[Chette]

I think some people just don't play/know baseball. Simply say at the start of the raid that first is to the right and third is to the left. Takes an extra 5 seconds and helps out your Euro friends.

[MalakRevan]

Go right.

There seems to be some confusion on Sarlona in the Plane of Night (VON6) about the conventional assignment of labels to the pillar "bases". It's set up roughly like a baseball field and it's generally accepted that you zone in at home plate with Velah over "the mound" and 2nd base being the far pillar with the air mephits. That much, most agree on. It's often though, that they get 1st and 3rd base mixed up.

Maybe not everyone plays baseball but those that do know that you move around the base path counterclockwise. 1st base is to your right when looking at the pitcher from home plate. It has fire elementals. 3rd base will be directly opposite that with ice flensers.

When raid leaders are giving orders, someone invariably gets confused between 1st and 3rd. Maybe they're confused by starting in the north of the map facing south. Maybe they're used to things being ordered clockwise. Maybe that's just the convention for some groups because "that's how we've always done it" syndrome. I don't know.

The most recent comment went something like, "Oh, of course that's how they are on normal. I thought you meant Epic." Why would they be labeled any differently on different difficulties!?

Can you shed some light on this for me. I don't really care strongly one way or another but I'd like to all be on the same page or it doesn't make sense to refer to them as "bases" at all. Just saying "fire base" or "cold base" or "air mephit base" might be clearer.

How can you get any clearer than Base 1, 2, and 3? I mean come on........it even takes less to say for those who don't like to use the mic.

[Tobril]

Go right.

There seems to be some confusion on Sarlona in the Plane of Night (VON6) about the conventional assignment of labels to the pillar "bases". It's set up roughly like a baseball field and it's generally accepted that you zone in at home plate with Velah over "the mound" and 2nd base being the far pillar with the air mephits. That much, most agree on. It's often though, that they get 1st and 3rd base mixed up.

Maybe not everyone plays baseball but those that do know that you move around the base path counterclockwise. 1st base is to your right when looking at the pitcher from home plate. It has fire elementals. 3rd base will be directly opposite that with ice flensers.

When raid leaders are giving orders, someone invariably gets confused between 1st and 3rd. Maybe they're confused by starting in the north of the map facing south. Maybe they're used to things being ordered clockwise. Maybe that's just the convention for some groups because "that's how we've always done it" syndrome. I don't know.

The most recent comment went something like, "Oh, of course that's how they are on normal. I thought you meant Epic." Why would they be labeled any differently on different difficulties!?

Can you shed some light on this for me. I don't really care strongly one way or another but I'd like to all be on the same page or it doesn't make sense to refer to them as "bases" at all. Just saying "fire base" or "cold base" or "air mephit base" might be clearer.

Update for the Epic challenged....we go left.

(Hi Welcome)

[MalakRevan]

Left you say? I've done it this way as well, altho I think it's easier to go through the right first personally. I hate those Ice Flensers on Epic......almost as much as I hate KOBOLDS!

[Fattiest]

I thought this was going to be a guide to grabbing some boobage. or is that second base?

[Oran_Lathor]

This confused the hell outta me too. After several years of having the bases labelled as per baseball, I joined a pug not too long ago and was told i'd be on 3rd base... so I stopped at 3rd. Only to see the other people assigned to third go all the way round to first...

[shadow_419]

If you get any players who don't have any idea what baseball is, fall back to the biggest international game.

1st Base = Right midfield
2nd Base = Opponents goal
3rd base = Left midfield

[Zzevel]

I have been TOO MANY in Sarlona VON groups that swear third is first... I have tried to bring up the Baseball analogy and am told I'm wrong... really? What game do you play where 3rd is first? ... It all started with these new f2p yahoos came along! Third is fist M.A.!

[MeToo]

I thought this was going to be a guide to grabbing some boobage. or is that second base?

I secretly did this to you to get hits in hopes of an answer. I do love wordplay and considered other titles but desire to keep the thread under PG-13.

[TheDearLeader]

Shouldn't this be in the Sarlona forums if you want the Sarlona exposure?

EV6 is not a new raid. Even on Epic, its not new anymore. Unless someone speaks up, we're not going to spend 10 minutes explaining to 12 people that already know it after having already spent 10 minutes filling, and 20 minutes clearing VoN 5.

If you had some sort of question/confusion/concerns walking into the raid, you should have voiced them.

Its called 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base due to the order we go to them. I've yet to see a single EV6 (80+ and counting now) that ran right instead of running left. Its done this way because if a Render on Base 1 breaks, its a lot less harmful to the caster trying to dance it than a fire elemental would be on Base 3.

[Qzipoun]

Left is 'first' because it's the first you get to. Most people have dropped the baseball analogy a long time ago

[bryanmeerkat]

So Whos on first ?

[Qzipoun]

So Whos on first ?

Naturally...

[testing1234]

euros will not understand the baseball allegory's what wrong with clockwise and counterclockwise 1 2 3?

[TheDearLeader]

euros will not understand the baseball allegory's what wrong with clockwise and counterclockwise 1 2 3?

It doesn't matter if they won't understand, since base assignments don't follow baseball.

Again, they are what they are. If there's confusion, ask instead of sitting there like a mute for the 3-4 minutes it takes for everyone to get buffed and ready to go.

[MeToo]

Shouldn't this be in the Sarlona forums if you want the Sarlona exposure?
They'll still see this but I hoped to draw on the experience of all DDOers.

Its called 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base due to the order we go to them. I've yet to see a single EV6 (80+ and counting now) that ran right instead of running left. Its done this way because if a Render on Base 1 breaks, its a lot less harmful to the caster trying to dance it than a fire elemental would be on Base 3.

Okay, I think this gives me some insight:
Base #1 = Cold = 3rd Base = left from start
Base #2 = Air = 2nd Base = across from start
Base #3 = Fire = 1st Base = right from start

So the common way to do it is to first go to 3rd base. Makes sense. Then you deal with what's on second? So, while you're doing all this, who's on first?

[k1ngp1n]

It would be a lot easier just referencing them as the elements they are. However, this is Sarlona you're talking about. Making sense and adhering to analogies isn't what we do! We'll call things whatever we want! What you don't approve? GET OUT!

:P

[MeToo]

So Whos on first ?

And all this time we've been talking about the Abbott raid.

[captainker]

In Epic in the groups that I've been in, we do teams 1, 2, and 3, and just islands 1, 2, and 3, and don't mention bases at all, since we all start heading left, and we usually say who leads the run anyway, and if you're not following them, you're going the wrong way.