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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar28 View Post
    obviously i'll take a decked out 20 barb over a decked out 20 rogue for the simple fact that a barb with 700+ hitpoints will survive an exploding bat more often than a rogue with 350. Not saying I won't take rogues, just that some classes will have an easier time getting in than others.
    A "decked out" rogue would not have 350 HP. Too low. I had my Bard at level 20 for like, a week, and he had more HP than that. I'm sure a Rogue can manage to find a way to beat my silly Spellsinger.

    And said rogue wouldn't get creamed by a DBF, or Chain Lightning. Nor would the Monk, or the Ranger.

    If you didn't want a sign up list, why even pop this up on the forums? If their toons are on timer now, they'll (very likely) still be on timer 4-6 hours from now. If you really wanted to afford people a proper "heads up", shoulda done it 60~70 hours ago.

    Still don't know which toon's 20th this is for you. Maybe you don't know who the other 11 people in your party are going to be, but you could at least let them know what you're bringing to the festivities. Seems like a fairly simple courtesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar28 View Post
    ... obviously i'll take a decked out 20 barb over a decked out 20 rogue for the simple fact that a barb with 700+ hitpoints will survive an exploding bat more often than a rogue with 350. Not saying I won't take rogues, just that some classes will have an easier time getting in than others.
    How about the rogue with 500 hp and Improved Evasion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phidius View Post
    How about the rogue with 500 hp and Improved Evasion?
    GIMP! LOL j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by mws2970 View Post
    GIMP! LOL j/k
    Heh - I haven't played a "rogue" in years, but I figured they'd have at least as much as a wizard
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar28 View Post
    people.. this isn't complicated..

    not going to break down my entire strategy, nor reserve slots.

    And thanks for the tips, but I've run this quest 100's of times on 5 different toons, I don't need strategy on how to beat elite.


    what i'm looking for is people to click on the lfm.. and i'll decide what player/class would best suit the current party. obviously i'll take a decked out 20 barb over a decked out 20 rogue for the simple fact that a barb with 700+ hitpoints will survive an exploding bat more often than a rogue with 350. Not saying I won't take rogues, just that some classes will have an easier time getting in than others.
    So no clerics allowed?

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    Given identical equipment, they'd be 40 points higher. Rogues are d6, arcanes are d4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoJ View Post
    So no clerics allowed?
    Only if the cleric has 700+ HP.

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    I am well prepared for the coming drama.


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    But on the other hand arcanes usually have more leftover buildpoints for con.

    AND phidius plays gimp meleearcanes with levels of other classes that has higher hit dices :P

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    The above picture creeps me out.

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    Im confused, when did this 2 year old raid become so difficult and complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Im confused, when did this 2 year old raid become so difficult and complicated?
    It's Sarlona. We don't even know how to label bases right, apparently.

    At least it won't be about the Shroud... that's a step up for us, right?
    That's it. I'm clicking every altar immediately. I'm gonna use only cure light wounds on my cleric, too. Shroud drama must continue!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Im confused, when did this 2 year old raid become so difficult and complicated?
    Do you really want an answer to that, or would more pictures of popcorn suffice?
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    I heard some guy in the Harbor on Sarlona yelling about how he had to have an uber AC initmitank for Stealthy Repossession.

    When questioned, he asked me how long I've been playing and what I planned to do once I've hit the vale and there were no more quests to do. I was confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirkan View Post
    I heard some guy in the Harbor on Sarlona yelling about how he had to have an uber AC initmitank for Stealthy Repossession.

    When questioned, he asked me how long I've been playing and what I planned to do once I've hit the vale and there were no more quests to do. I was confused.
    Didn't you hear? Everyone in the Harbor is a pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanka View Post
    Do you really want an answer to that, or would more pictures of popcorn suffice?
    a fake answer and then more popcorn pics please

    I mean don't rogues , rangers and monks have evasion ?? so even if that barb has 700hps most likey he will die first lmao , Ohhh wait I forgot the Barb has 2 levels of rogue himself so nm this rant is meaningless lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecerak View Post
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    AND phidius plays gimp meleearcanes with levels of other classes that has higher hit dices :P
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    I think the OP wants a meaty barb, to give the healers time to heal if things turn pear shaped. A rogue can survive tanking Suulo on elite.... but for how long in one position?

    Plus, rogues lose much more dps on Elite compared to normal due to the increased fortification. So a barb would be more useful in consistent and longer dps.

    Plus if he is pugging, the rogues that apply probably will not be your 400+ Hp toons you want to see.

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    I beleive backstab damage remains constant no matter what the fort of the bad guy.
    I know my rogue will out DPS my barb on EPIC's.

    As far as tanking Sully, what difference does it make? 400hp toons can tank just fine.

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