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    This needs fixed. BADLY. Hyenas and all cat like mobs. While timers for this no longer reset part way through, when 1 knockdown timer finishes another immediately appears and this continues until death. Only with these types of mobs. All they do in continous improved trip attacks. If you have more then 1 of these and you get knocked down, your not getting back up. EXTREMELY annoying.
    I know you want to sell rez cakes in the DDO store but this isnt the way to do it. Your more likely to lose customers completely.

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    Yes, and while you´re at it, fix stun as well! The cooldown timer is too **** short! And the DCs are so high there´s no way to save! They even get stunning +10 equipment which not only raises their stun DC, but also gives a % chance to proc without even using a special ability! Shintao monks are even worse, they get 2 Stun abilities with independent timers at high level, and know what - they crit every time they hit me after a successful stun! I mean everyone of them has hvy fort from lvl 9 on, and their attack rate is 3 times mine at least! What is the fun in this, they need to get nerfed ASAP! We have no chance, even though we have a full party every single time, could it player scaling is screwed? Please fix this ASAP!

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    P.S.: Please have a look at the proc rates of other auto-crit weapon effects & guards as well, this is really annoying!

















    Seriously, you complain about a certain mob with a special ability that enables it to actually hit you? I know it is annoying when they do this but hey, let them have their 5 seconds of fun too

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    Or, get a character that has a better balance/Str/Dex and don't get knocked down as often. I suppose that would not be fair though. I guess nerfing the monsters is the easiest solution.

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    [They can't trip you while you shield block. Shield block while on your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowin View Post
    Yes, and while you´re at it, fix stun as well! The cooldown timer is too **** short! And the DCs are so high there´s no way to save! They even get stunning +10 equipment which not only raises their stun DC, but also gives a % chance to proc without even using a special ability! Shintao monks are even worse, they get 2 Stun abilities with independent timers at high level, and know what - they crit every time they hit me after a successful stun! I mean everyone of them has hvy fort from lvl 9 on, and their attack rate is 3 times mine at least! What is the fun in this, they need to get nerfed ASAP! We have no chance, even though we have a full party every single time, could it player scaling is screwed? Please fix this ASAP!

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    P.S.: Please have a look at the proc rates of other auto-crit weapon effects & guards as well, this is really annoying!

















    Seriously, you complain about a certain mob with a special ability that enables it to actually hit you? I know it is annoying when they do this but hey, let them have their 5 seconds of fun too
    Quote Originally Posted by flynnjsw View Post
    Or, get a character that has a better balance/Str/Dex and don't get knocked down as often. I suppose that would not be fair though. I guess nerfing the monsters is the easiest solution.
    Ok I wanted to leave a suggestion, not be mocked by the fanboi brigade. Go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thame View Post
    Ok I wanted to leave a suggestion, not be mocked by the fanboi brigade. Go away.
    Post on a public forum and be prepared to have people have an opinion different than yours. Otherwise, take your "fanboi" and...well...

    I'll leave well enough alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    [They can't trip you while you shield block. Shield block while on your back.
    THIS.!.!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thame View Post
    Ok I wanted to leave a suggestion, not be mocked by the fanboi brigade. Go away.
    Fanboi? Why is this an insult again?
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    Invest in balance?

    Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thame View Post
    Ok I wanted to leave a suggestion, not be mocked by the fanboi brigade. Go away.
    No way. You did not leave a suggestion, just a rant because you got killed by a few kittens and I totally agree with you that it is indeed annoying when that happens. Anyway, I tried to make you aware of how inferior mobs´ abilities are compared to what we can use on them. If you had a bad experience, that´s bad luck on your side, but not a reason to change the game mechanics that have already been changed to make it easier for players forthermore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowin View Post
    Yes, and while you´re at it, fix stun as well! The cooldown timer is too **** short! And the DCs are so high there´s no way to save! They even get stunning +10 equipment which not only raises their stun DC, but also gives a % chance to proc without even using a special ability! Shintao monks are even worse, they get 2 Stun abilities with independent timers at high level, and know what - they crit every time they hit me after a successful stun! I mean everyone of them has hvy fort from lvl 9 on, and their attack rate is 3 times mine at least! What is the fun in this, they need to get nerfed ASAP! We have no chance, even though we have a full party every single time, could it player scaling is screwed? Please fix this ASAP!

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    Get yourself heavy fort item.

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    Fixing balance itself may be a fix for this. Make the trip attempt worth against the BALANCE of the target and not his str/dex.


    Even with 36 dex, the cats in amrath WILL trip you. Constantly. Over and over. The OP is right. This is with a balance of over 50(Tested with all buffs and had 68 balance, still got infini-triped vs 2 cats)

    Balance only helps you get up faster. Which is not what balance is, balance is the 'ability to stay upon ones feet' not 'how fast I can push myself up from a prone position'

    Balance the skill should do both. As a defense vs knockdown/trip effects, and the ability to jump back up after being knocked down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDarkwolf View Post
    Fixing balance itself may be a fix for this. Make the trip attempt worth against the BALANCE of the target and not his str/dex.


    Balance [the skill] only helps you get up faster. ...

    Balance the skill should do both. As a defense vs knockdown/trip effects, and the ability to jump back up after being knocked down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krag View Post
    Get yourself heavy fort item.

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    Didn't we just have a thread like this not too long ago?

    Oh yeah, we did.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=281916

    We told him the same thing we told you, stop whining nerf because you cant figure out how to play a melee in a melee. The game is easy enough as it is, if they start nerfing the yard trash we might as well be playing Hello Kitty's Island Adventure.

    Apparently its whine about trash mobs month on the forums.

    And for God's sake quit being so thin skinned, if you post a suggestion without taking the time to look and see if its been suggested before (especially within a few weeks), be prepared for people to disagree with you. And try being an adult about the situation when it happens. Whining and throwing insults at people when they tell you that you're wrong is not the way to get people to change their minds and agree with you. This isn't 3rd grade recess and people here tend to show you the proper amount of respect you deserve, the catch being you have to actually deserve it.
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    pretty sure this kind of behaviour was patched out a long time back, maybe it snuck back in accidentally with an update. its annoying, but i suppose it gives them a chance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    [They can't trip you while you shield block. Shield block while on your back.
    This.

    As soon as you stand back up, tumble/jump out of there and try a more tactically sound approach. Stand by a wall, in a corner, or in a door where only a couple can hit you at once, for example.
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