Level 80 airship is broken missing hookpoints, and the amrath nav is still broke.

[Vengeance777]

Guild just bought the level 80 airship and its a downgrade from the level 55 ship! The Windspyre Gryphon is advertised as having 4 large hookpoints, 12 small hookpoints, and 9 crew hookpoints. It actually has 3 large, 12 small, and 7 crew hookpoints. The level 55 ship is 4 large, 10 small, 7 crew. This needs to be fixed immediately. We lost a few amenities during the upgrade. Guilds could lose store bought amenities.

Second bug:
Planescaller still does not work. If you purchase the planescaller for your airship it can not port you to Amrath. When you click the option to teleport to Amrath from the navigator nothing happens as well. Tried with both gold seal and regular neither work.

[FluffyCalico]

Second bug:
Planescaller does not work. If you purchase the planescaller for your airship it can not port you to Amrath. When you click the option to teleport to Amrath from the navigator nothing happens as well. Tried with both gold seal and regular neither work.

Known for a long time. Port to the 12 and run the 10 steps to amarath.

[Vanshilar]

I went through the airships available so far and tallied their hookpoints. The results were:

Type	Stated			Actual		
Airship	L	S	C	L	S	C
Lvl20	0	4	3	0	4	3
Lvl25	2	6	4	2	6	4
Lvl50	2	8	6	2	8	6
Lvl55	4	10	7	4	11	9
Lvl80	4	12	9	3	12	7
Lvl85	6	14	10

L = Large amenity
S = Small amenity
C = Crew

So it looks like the level 55 airship has 1 more small amenity and 2 more crew than it should, while the level 80 airship has 1 less large amenity and 2 less crew than it should. In fact, in "upgrading" from the level 55 to the level 80 airship, there was 1 more small amenity but 1 less large amenity and 2 less crew. Definitely not really an upgrade.

Overall I'm fairly disappointed in the large airship. Not only is there the number of hookpoints issue, but also, the exterior is more or less exactly just a scaled up level 50 airship. Compare the following screenshots, one from the level 50 airship followed by one from the level 80 airship:

















It looks like they're pretty much the same. All other airships (each of the Stormglory airships and the Windspyre Sparrow) all have their unique touches, but the Windspyre Falcon and the Windspyre Gryphon are the same except for minor cosmetic things like the location of the plank.

You can also compare their top views directly (via the airship showroom):

Windspyre Falcon:


Windspyre Gryphon:


Stormglory Tempest:


Stormglory Typhoon:


At least the Typhoon looks pretty interesting, so hopefully it'll work properly in terms of the hookpoints.

[TheDearLeader]

Thanks for all the great info. I'm going to guess that if this isn't fixed, Eternal Wrath will wait till level 85 to get a new ship. >.> Not that we were all that close to 80 yet.

[lugoman]

Known for a long time. Port to the 12 and run the 10 steps to amarath.

Have there been many guilds high enough to purchase a planescaller around for a long time?

[Oreg]

Have there been many guilds high enough to purchase a planescaller around for a long time?

I believe the first planescaller is available around guild level 50 so yeah it has been quite a while. We first noticed this a few months back.

[dwelsh99]

This is dissappointing, looks like we wont be upgrading till lvl 85.

May as well skip lvl 80 ship, while between levels 80-85. Just updrade it and upgrade again to lvl 85, when we jit lvl 85.

[Nauz]

our ship bugged out, only level 79. no word on how long or if they understand we have a problem.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I'm bumping this thread because apparently the devs don't know about it.

I put in a ticket in game and I just heard back from a senior GM who told me that they were unaware of any missing hookpoints and told me to bug report it.

I put in a bug report, but I suggest anyone else with the problem do the same as the initial bug report seems to be lost and maybe mine might get lost as well. Better to make sure they know it happens every time, so please, everyone with a L80 ship bug it! People shouldn't have to pay for a downgrade to their ship!

[Kinerd]

I'm embarrassed reading this, and I don't even work for Turbine.

[mystafyi]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

[TheDearLeader]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

D'you come up with that one all on your own? Don't be coming in here with your fancy education, dude.

[SardaofChaos]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

Problem generated: have to rack up 20,000 TP to get the total AD required for a ship better than the lvl 55 one. Assuming TP are only bought during $50 = 6900, that means $150, leaving you with 700 points left over. That's enough to buy all the adventure packs in the game and probably all of the account options, assuming you only buy during sales of more than 10% off.

Note: these figures were obtained using the wiki pages on Guild Airships and Astral Diamonds and as such may be subject to inaccuracies.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

Problem not fixed.

1) People often don't know it until they have spent 1.8 mil plat
2) We had no choice because our L55 airship was broken and the GMs could promise no resolution and told us it was a TOS violation to keep asking about our missing airship. Buying the L80 airship was the only thing we could do to get any airship back.

[Kinerd]

Have you tried buying a level 55 ship again, now that you've bought the level 80? Again, I'm embarrassed that this pathetic customer service situation is even happening, but it may be the way to make the best of it.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Have you tried buying a level 55 ship again, now that you've bought the level 80? Again, I'm embarrassed that this pathetic customer service situation is even happening, but it may be the way to make the best of it.

If I'm not mistaken that was an AD purchase, meaning we'd have to hand over real cash for a second time to move to that ship. We'd also have to upgrade to the L80 ship again (or pay more ADs) when we were ready for the L85 ship.

Paying more TPs to get around a Turbine bug isn't gonna happen.

It's not like the hookpoints are life and death, we were completing all these raids and epic quests without any buffs, its just annoying that a paid product is buggy and the response is a non response.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I saw someone else saying they were going to buy a L80 ship today so I thought I'd bump this thread again. People need to know that the L80 ship is broken.

[ganondalf]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

How on earth does this fix anything?

[MrWizard]

Wait, a lot of you had to buy, with real money, turbine points or astral diamonds, the ship bugs, and you are told it is a TOS to bug them about it? Really?

And the same for a ship that costs a lot, but is less then the one you already paid a lot for due to a bug?

And some advanced amenities that cost turbine points (i.e. real cash in most cases) have been bugged for months?

In game bugs I understand, bugs that cost you real cash or threats of TOS violations for complaining about it, I do not understand.

Perhaps a turbine employee would be kind enough to post in this thread and explain why it is a TOS, why a broken ship can be bought with real money when they know it is broke (and same with a crew member).

A game is a game, but cash is cash...

Turbine, wanna clear this up for people and not just close the thread? Would be the cool thing to do, especially for those that spend money on the game and did not get what was promised.

[Hendrik]

I saw someone else saying they were going to buy a L80 ship today so I thought I'd bump this thread again. People need to know that the L80 ship is broken.

We did.

Knew it was busticated but not to this degree/magnitude.

Do not regret upgrading - figured we would use the chance to /report and get it fixed.

So, we have sent in reports as detailed and as best we can.

Please take LFO's advice and bug report the L80 ship.

GM's are unable to refund your lost plat on the ship, lost crew, lost TP, and or lost contracts. You are stuck with a Airship that does not function as advertised and will be taking a loss upon upgrading - however, I still suggest people upgrade when given the chance. This might force Turbine's hand to fix this ASAP.

With enough reports, I hope Turbine can rectify this harmful bug to the community in the next Update.