Level 80 airship is broken missing hookpoints, and the amrath nav is still broke.

[Vengeance777]

Guild just bought the level 80 airship and its a downgrade from the level 55 ship! The Windspyre Gryphon is advertised as having 4 large hookpoints, 12 small hookpoints, and 9 crew hookpoints. It actually has 3 large, 12 small, and 7 crew hookpoints. The level 55 ship is 4 large, 10 small, 7 crew. This needs to be fixed immediately. We lost a few amenities during the upgrade. Guilds could lose store bought amenities.

Second bug:
Planescaller still does not work. If you purchase the planescaller for your airship it can not port you to Amrath. When you click the option to teleport to Amrath from the navigator nothing happens as well. Tried with both gold seal and regular neither work.

[FluffyCalico]

Second bug:
Planescaller does not work. If you purchase the planescaller for your airship it can not port you to Amrath. When you click the option to teleport to Amrath from the navigator nothing happens as well. Tried with both gold seal and regular neither work.

Known for a long time. Port to the 12 and run the 10 steps to amarath.

[Vanshilar]

I went through the airships available so far and tallied their hookpoints. The results were:

Type	Stated			Actual		
Airship	L	S	C	L	S	C
Lvl20	0	4	3	0	4	3
Lvl25	2	6	4	2	6	4
Lvl50	2	8	6	2	8	6
Lvl55	4	10	7	4	11	9
Lvl80	4	12	9	3	12	7
Lvl85	6	14	10

L = Large amenity
S = Small amenity
C = Crew

So it looks like the level 55 airship has 1 more small amenity and 2 more crew than it should, while the level 80 airship has 1 less large amenity and 2 less crew than it should. In fact, in "upgrading" from the level 55 to the level 80 airship, there was 1 more small amenity but 1 less large amenity and 2 less crew. Definitely not really an upgrade.

Overall I'm fairly disappointed in the large airship. Not only is there the number of hookpoints issue, but also, the exterior is more or less exactly just a scaled up level 50 airship. Compare the following screenshots, one from the level 50 airship followed by one from the level 80 airship:

















It looks like they're pretty much the same. All other airships (each of the Stormglory airships and the Windspyre Sparrow) all have their unique touches, but the Windspyre Falcon and the Windspyre Gryphon are the same except for minor cosmetic things like the location of the plank.

You can also compare their top views directly (via the airship showroom):

Windspyre Falcon:


Windspyre Gryphon:


Stormglory Tempest:


Stormglory Typhoon:


At least the Typhoon looks pretty interesting, so hopefully it'll work properly in terms of the hookpoints.

[TheDearLeader]

Thanks for all the great info. I'm going to guess that if this isn't fixed, Eternal Wrath will wait till level 85 to get a new ship. >.> Not that we were all that close to 80 yet.

[lugoman]

Known for a long time. Port to the 12 and run the 10 steps to amarath.

Have there been many guilds high enough to purchase a planescaller around for a long time?

[Oreg]

Have there been many guilds high enough to purchase a planescaller around for a long time?

I believe the first planescaller is available around guild level 50 so yeah it has been quite a while. We first noticed this a few months back.

[dwelsh99]

This is dissappointing, looks like we wont be upgrading till lvl 85.

May as well skip lvl 80 ship, while between levels 80-85. Just updrade it and upgrade again to lvl 85, when we jit lvl 85.

[Nauz]

our ship bugged out, only level 79. no word on how long or if they understand we have a problem.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I'm bumping this thread because apparently the devs don't know about it.

I put in a ticket in game and I just heard back from a senior GM who told me that they were unaware of any missing hookpoints and told me to bug report it.

I put in a bug report, but I suggest anyone else with the problem do the same as the initial bug report seems to be lost and maybe mine might get lost as well. Better to make sure they know it happens every time, so please, everyone with a L80 ship bug it! People shouldn't have to pay for a downgrade to their ship!

[Kinerd]

I'm embarrassed reading this, and I don't even work for Turbine.

[mystafyi]

just dont upgrade to a lvl 80 airship... problem fixed

[Anthorin]

Guild just bought the level 80 airship and its a downgrade from the level 55 ship! The Windspyre Gryphon is advertised as having 4 large hookpoints, 12 small hookpoints, and 9 crew hookpoints. It actually has 3 large, 12 small, and 7 crew hookpoints. The level 55 ship is 4 large, 10 small, 7 crew. This needs to be fixed immediately. We lost a few amenities during the upgrade. Guilds could lose store bought amenities.

Second bug:
Planescaller still does not work. If you purchase the planescaller for your airship it can not port you to Amrath. When you click the option to teleport to Amrath from the navigator nothing happens as well. Tried with both gold seal and regular neither work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_law

I wonder if guild ships get covered by this?

[Smitey]

It's acknowledged in the Lamannia known issues for 8.1:

NEW: Both the level 55 Stormglory Tempest airship, and the level 80 Windspyre Gryphon airship, have the incorrect number of hookpoints.

[MsEricka]

Thread necro = bad

Just start a new thread.

[Dendrix]

it works just fine

[MsEricka]

This is a perfect example of how to use search. This user sought out this post that was relevant, in addition to recognizing that it was a necro. He took the time to find it, in addition to showing remorse, and the first response was still a 'necro thread' response. This is why no man should ever use search function when considering posting a new thread. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't

Nope, not a perfect example. A perfect example would been to have searched for the thread, and then started a new one to ask the question that wasn't answered in this thread.

Mods on almost any decent forum on the net will automatically close threads that are necro'd because most of the information is no longer relevant.

Do _all_ users read _all_ posts in a thread? No. So someone will come in, see two year old information and quote it as gospel. That's why thread necro's are bad, if you don't see that then that's your problem.